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Prices by grade
Today's figures for every tier.
Raw · ungraded£3.67
PSA 10£112
PSA 9£22.11
CGC 10£66.78
BGS 10£146
At a glance
30-day high£3.67
30-day low£2.48
Tracked high£3.87
Days tracked194
Price history
119 readings · 194d
HoloHawk awaiting data£3.67+6.7%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
18 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4419 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4420 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4421 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4422 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4423 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4424 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4425 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.67
£3.50£3.60
18 Oct18 Oct19 Oct19 Oct25 Oct25 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£3.67+48.0%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
25 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4826 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4827 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4828 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.2129 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.2130 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.211 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.212 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.213 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.214 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.215 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.216 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.217 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.218 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.219 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.2110 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.2111 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.2112 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.2113 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.2114 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.2115 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4416 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4417 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4418 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4419 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4420 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4421 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4422 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4423 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4424 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4425 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.67
£2.50£3.00£3.50
25 Sept28 Sept15 Oct15 Oct19 Oct25 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£3.67+36.4%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6915 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6916 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6917 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6918 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6919 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6920 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6921 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6922 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6923 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.7024 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.7025 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.7026 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.7027 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.7028 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.7029 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.7430 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.741 May 2026PriceCharting£2.742 May 2026PriceCharting£2.743 May 2026PriceCharting£2.744 May 2026PriceCharting£2.745 May 2026PriceCharting£2.746 May 2026PriceCharting£2.747 May 2026PriceCharting£2.748 May 2026PriceCharting£2.749 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7410 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7411 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7412 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7313 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7314 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7315 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7316 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7317 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7318 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7319 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7320 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7321 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7322 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7323 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7324 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7325 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7326 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7327 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7328 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7329 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7330 May 2026PriceCharting£2.7331 May 2026PriceCharting£2.731 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.732 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.733 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.734 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.735 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.736 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.737 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.738 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.739 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7310 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7311 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7312 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7313 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7314 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7315 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7316 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7317 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7318 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7319 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7320 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7321 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7322 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7323 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7324 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7325 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7326 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7327 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7328 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7329 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7330 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.731 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.732 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.733 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.734 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.735 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.736 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.697 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.698 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.699 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.6910 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.6911 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.6912 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.2013 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.2014 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.2015 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.2016 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.2017 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.6118 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.6119 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.6120 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.6121 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.6122 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.6123 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.8724 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.8725 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.8726 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.8727 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.8728 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.8729 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.8730 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.8731 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.871 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.872 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.803 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.804 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.805 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.806 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.807 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.808 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.759 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7510 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7511 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7512 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7113 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7114 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7115 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7116 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7117 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7118 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7119 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7120 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7121 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6922 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6923 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6924 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6925 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6926 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6927 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.7128 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.7129 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.7130 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.7131 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.711 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.712 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.713 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.714 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.715 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.486 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.487 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.488 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.489 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4810 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4811 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4812 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4813 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4814 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4815 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4816 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4817 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4818 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4819 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4820 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4821 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4822 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4823 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4824 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4825 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4826 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4827 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.4828 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.2129 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.2130 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.211 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.212 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.213 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.214 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.215 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.216 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.217 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.218 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.219 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.2110 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.2111 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.2112 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.2113 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.2114 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.2115 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4416 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4417 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4418 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4419 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4420 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4421 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4422 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4423 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4424 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4425 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.67
£2.50£3.00£3.50
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Three independent readings on one scale. A reading is recorded only when a price changes, so a flat stretch means it held. Hover or tap any day. HoloHawk and PulseTCG have no readings for this card yet.
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£93.7815 Apr 2026PSA 10£93.7816 Apr 2026PSA 10£93.7817 Apr 2026PSA 10£93.7818 Apr 2026PSA 10£93.7819 Apr 2026PSA 10£93.7820 Apr 2026PSA 10£93.7821 Apr 2026PSA 10£93.7822 Apr 2026PSA 10£93.7823 Apr 2026PSA 10£93.7824 Apr 2026PSA 10£93.7825 Apr 2026PSA 10£93.7826 Apr 2026PSA 10£93.7827 Apr 2026PSA 10£93.7828 Apr 2026PSA 10£93.7829 Apr 2026PSA 10£93.7830 Apr 2026PSA 10£93.781 May 2026PSA 10£93.782 May 2026PSA 10£93.783 May 2026PSA 10£93.784 May 2026PSA 10£93.785 May 2026PSA 10£93.786 May 2026PSA 10£93.787 May 2026PSA 10£93.788 May 2026PSA 10£93.789 May 2026PSA 10£93.7810 May 2026PSA 10£93.7811 May 2026PSA 10£93.7812 May 2026PSA 10£11513 May 2026PSA 10£11514 May 2026PSA 10£11515 May 2026PSA 10£11516 May 2026PSA 10£11517 May 2026PSA 10£11518 May 2026PSA 10£11419 May 2026PSA 10£11420 May 2026PSA 10£11421 May 2026PSA 10£11422 May 2026PSA 10£11423 May 2026PSA 10£11424 May 2026PSA 10£11425 May 2026PSA 10£11426 May 2026PSA 10£11427 May 2026PSA 10£11328 May 2026PSA 10£11329 May 2026PSA 10£11330 May 2026PSA 10£11331 May 2026PSA 10£1131 Jun 2026PSA 10£1132 Jun 2026PSA 10£1133 Jun 2026PSA 10£1134 Jun 2026PSA 10£1135 Jun 2026PSA 10£1136 Jun 2026PSA 10£1127 Jun 2026PSA 10£1128 Jun 2026PSA 10£1129 Jun 2026PSA 10£11210 Jun 2026PSA 10£11211 Jun 2026PSA 10£11212 Jun 2026PSA 10£11213 Jun 2026PSA 10£11214 Jun 2026PSA 10£11215 Jun 2026PSA 10£11216 Jun 2026PSA 10£11217 Jun 2026PSA 10£11618 Jun 2026PSA 10£11619 Jun 2026PSA 10£11620 Jun 2026PSA 10£11621 Jun 2026PSA 10£11622 Jun 2026PSA 10£11623 Jun 2026PSA 10£11624 Jun 2026PSA 10£11625 Jun 2026PSA 10£11626 Jun 2026PSA 10£11627 Jun 2026PSA 10£11628 Jun 2026PSA 10£11629 Jun 2026PSA 10£11630 Jun 2026PSA 10£1161 Jul 2026PSA 10£1162 Jul 2026PSA 10£1163 Jul 2026PSA 10£1164 Jul 2026PSA 10£1165 Jul 2026PSA 10£1166 Jul 2026PSA 10£1157 Jul 2026PSA 10£1158 Jul 2026PSA 10£1159 Jul 2026PSA 10£11510 Jul 2026PSA 10£11511 Jul 2026PSA 10£11512 Jul 2026PSA 10£11513 Jul 2026PSA 10£11514 Jul 2026PSA 10£11515 Jul 2026PSA 10£11516 Jul 2026PSA 10£11517 Jul 2026PSA 10£11418 Jul 2026PSA 10£11419 Jul 2026PSA 10£11420 Jul 2026PSA 10£11421 Jul 2026PSA 10£11422 Jul 2026PSA 10£11423 Jul 2026PSA 10£11424 Jul 2026PSA 10£11425 Jul 2026PSA 10£11426 Jul 2026PSA 10£11427 Jul 2026PSA 10£11428 Jul 2026PSA 10£11429 Jul 2026PSA 10£11430 Jul 2026PSA 10£11431 Jul 2026PSA 10£1141 Aug 2026PSA 10£1142 Aug 2026PSA 10£1143 Aug 2026PSA 10£1144 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£32.44CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1495 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£32.44CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1496 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£32.44CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1497 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£32.44CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1498 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1489 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14810 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14811 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14812 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14813 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14814 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14815 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14816 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14817 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14818 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14819 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14820 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14821 Aug 2026PSA 10£112PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14522 Aug 2026PSA 10£112PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14523 Aug 2026PSA 10£112PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14524 Aug 2026PSA 10£112PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14525 Aug 2026PSA 10£112PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14526 Aug 2026PSA 10£112PSA 9£33.10CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14527 Aug 2026PSA 10£111PSA 9£31.32CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14428 Aug 2026PSA 10£111PSA 9£31.32CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14429 Aug 2026PSA 10£111PSA 9£31.32CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14430 Aug 2026PSA 10£111PSA 9£31.32CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14431 Aug 2026PSA 10£111PSA 9£31.32CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1441 Sept 2026PSA 10£111PSA 9£31.32CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1442 Sept 2026PSA 10£111PSA 9£31.32CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1443 Sept 2026PSA 10£111PSA 9£31.32CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1444 Sept 2026PSA 10£111PSA 9£31.32CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1445 Sept 2026PSA 10£110PSA 9£30.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1436 Sept 2026PSA 10£110PSA 9£30.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1437 Sept 2026PSA 10£110PSA 9£30.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1438 Sept 2026PSA 10£110PSA 9£30.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1439 Sept 2026PSA 10£110PSA 9£30.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14310 Sept 2026PSA 10£110PSA 9£30.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14311 Sept 2026PSA 10£110PSA 9£30.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14312 Sept 2026PSA 10£110PSA 9£30.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14313 Sept 2026PSA 10£110PSA 9£30.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14314 Sept 2026PSA 10£110PSA 9£30.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14315 Sept 2026PSA 10£110PSA 9£30.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14316 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£28.95CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14717 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£28.95CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14718 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£28.95CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14719 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£28.95CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14720 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£28.95CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14721 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£28.95CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14722 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14723 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14724 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14725 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14726 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14727 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14728 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14729 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14730 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1471 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1472 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1473 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1474 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1475 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1476 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1477 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1478 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£1479 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14710 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14711 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14712 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14713 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14714 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14715 Oct 2026PSA 10£112PSA 9£31.26CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14616 Oct 2026PSA 10£112PSA 9£31.26CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14617 Oct 2026PSA 10£112PSA 9£31.26CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14618 Oct 2026PSA 10£112PSA 9£31.26CGC 10£15.00BGS 10£14619 Oct 2026PSA 10£112PSA 9£22.11CGC 10£66.78BGS 10£14620 Oct 2026PSA 10£112PSA 9£22.11CGC 10£66.78BGS 10£14621 Oct 2026PSA 10£112PSA 9£22.11CGC 10£66.78BGS 10£14622 Oct 2026PSA 10£112PSA 9£22.11CGC 10£66.78BGS 10£14623 Oct 2026PSA 10£112PSA 9£22.11CGC 10£66.78BGS 10£14624 Oct 2026PSA 10£112PSA 9£22.11CGC 10£66.78BGS 10£14625 Oct 2026PSA 10£112PSA 9£22.11CGC 10£66.78BGS 10£146
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Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
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How much new stock hits the UK market each day The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This charts how many appear for this card once the daily rollup has readings for it.
A direct count of listings we saw appear — not an estimate of every listing on eBay.
Confirmed sales per day
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How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. This charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day, from the first confirmed sale for this card.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
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Live UK listings for this card The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This fills as soon as one appears for this card, showing asking prices cheapest first.
Where these numbers come from
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawkOur own market price, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.