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Prices by grade
PSA 10 = 6.2× raw
Today's figures for every tier.
Raw · ungraded£24.39
PSA 10£152
PSA 9£27.47
CGC 10£60.96
BGS 10£197
A PSA 10 sells for 6.2× the raw card — a gap of £127. Grading fees and the risk of a 9 come out of that.
At a glance
30-day high£24.39
30-day low£22.25
Tracked high£24.39
Days tracked194
Price history
115 readings · 194d
HoloHawk awaiting data£24.39+9.6%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
18 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2519 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2520 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2521 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2522 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2523 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2524 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2525 Oct 2026PriceCharting£24.39
£23.00£24.00
18 Oct18 Oct23 Oct23 Oct25 Oct25 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£24.39+8.9%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
25 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3926 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3927 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3928 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3929 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3930 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.391 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.392 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.393 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.394 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.395 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.396 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.397 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.398 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.399 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.3910 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.3911 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.3912 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.3913 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.3914 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.3915 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2516 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2517 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2518 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2519 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2520 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2521 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2522 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2523 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2524 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2525 Oct 2026PriceCharting£24.39
£23.00£24.00
25 Sept25 Sept15 Oct15 Oct23 Oct25 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£24.39+79.6%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£13.5815 Apr 2026PriceCharting£13.5816 Apr 2026PriceCharting£13.5817 Apr 2026PriceCharting£13.5818 Apr 2026PriceCharting£13.5819 Apr 2026PriceCharting£20.3120 Apr 2026PriceCharting£20.3121 Apr 2026PriceCharting£20.3122 Apr 2026PriceCharting£20.3123 Apr 2026PriceCharting£20.3124 Apr 2026PriceCharting£20.3125 Apr 2026PriceCharting£20.3126 Apr 2026PriceCharting£20.3127 Apr 2026PriceCharting£21.9928 Apr 2026PriceCharting£21.9929 Apr 2026PriceCharting£21.9930 Apr 2026PriceCharting£21.991 May 2026PriceCharting£21.992 May 2026PriceCharting£21.993 May 2026PriceCharting£21.994 May 2026PriceCharting£21.995 May 2026PriceCharting£21.996 May 2026PriceCharting£21.997 May 2026PriceCharting£21.998 May 2026PriceCharting£21.999 May 2026PriceCharting£21.9910 May 2026PriceCharting£21.9911 May 2026PriceCharting£21.9912 May 2026PriceCharting£21.9913 May 2026PriceCharting£21.9914 May 2026PriceCharting£21.9915 May 2026PriceCharting£21.9916 May 2026PriceCharting£21.9917 May 2026PriceCharting£21.9918 May 2026PriceCharting£21.9919 May 2026PriceCharting£21.9920 May 2026PriceCharting£21.9921 May 2026PriceCharting£21.9922 May 2026PriceCharting£21.9923 May 2026PriceCharting£21.9924 May 2026PriceCharting£21.9925 May 2026PriceCharting£21.9926 May 2026PriceCharting£21.9927 May 2026PriceCharting£21.4728 May 2026PriceCharting£21.4729 May 2026PriceCharting£21.4730 May 2026PriceCharting£21.4731 May 2026PriceCharting£21.471 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.472 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.473 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.474 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.475 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.476 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.477 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.218 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.219 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.2110 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.2111 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.2112 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.2113 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.2114 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.2115 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.2116 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.2117 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.2118 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.2119 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.2120 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.2121 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.2122 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.2123 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.2124 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.2125 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.2126 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.2127 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.0828 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.0829 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.0830 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.081 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.082 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.083 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.084 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.085 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.086 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.087 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.828 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.829 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8210 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8211 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8212 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8213 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8214 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8215 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8216 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8217 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8218 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8219 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8220 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8221 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8222 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8223 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8224 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8225 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8226 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8227 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8228 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8229 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8230 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.8231 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.821 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.822 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.823 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.824 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.825 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.826 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.827 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.828 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.829 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8210 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8211 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8212 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8213 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8214 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8215 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8216 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8217 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8218 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8219 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8220 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8221 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8222 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8223 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8224 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8225 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8226 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8227 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8228 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8229 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8230 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.8231 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21.821 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21.822 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21.823 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21.824 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21.825 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21.826 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21.827 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21.828 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21.829 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21.8210 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21.8211 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21.8212 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21.8213 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21.8214 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21.8215 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21.8216 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3917 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3918 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3919 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3920 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3921 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3922 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3923 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3924 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3925 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3926 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3927 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3928 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3929 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.3930 Sept 2026PriceCharting£22.391 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.392 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.393 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.394 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.395 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.396 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.397 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.398 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.399 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.3910 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.3911 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.3912 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.3913 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.3914 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.3915 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2516 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2517 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2518 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2519 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2520 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2521 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2522 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2523 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2524 Oct 2026PriceCharting£22.2525 Oct 2026PriceCharting£24.39
£15.00£20.00
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Three independent readings on one scale. A reading is recorded only when a price changes, so a flat stretch means it held. Hover or tap any day. HoloHawk and PulseTCG have no readings for this card yet.
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£11315 Apr 2026PSA 10£11316 Apr 2026PSA 10£11317 Apr 2026PSA 10£11318 Apr 2026PSA 10£11319 Apr 2026PSA 10£11320 Apr 2026PSA 10£11321 Apr 2026PSA 10£11322 Apr 2026PSA 10£11323 Apr 2026PSA 10£11324 Apr 2026PSA 10£11325 Apr 2026PSA 10£11326 Apr 2026PSA 10£11327 Apr 2026PSA 10£11328 Apr 2026PSA 10£11329 Apr 2026PSA 10£11330 Apr 2026PSA 10£1131 May 2026PSA 10£1132 May 2026PSA 10£1133 May 2026PSA 10£1134 May 2026PSA 10£1135 May 2026PSA 10£1136 May 2026PSA 10£1137 May 2026PSA 10£1138 May 2026PSA 10£1139 May 2026PSA 10£11310 May 2026PSA 10£11311 May 2026PSA 10£11312 May 2026PSA 10£11313 May 2026PSA 10£11314 May 2026PSA 10£11315 May 2026PSA 10£11316 May 2026PSA 10£11317 May 2026PSA 10£11318 May 2026PSA 10£11319 May 2026PSA 10£11320 May 2026PSA 10£11321 May 2026PSA 10£11322 May 2026PSA 10£11323 May 2026PSA 10£11324 May 2026PSA 10£11325 May 2026PSA 10£11326 May 2026PSA 10£11327 May 2026PSA 10£11328 May 2026PSA 10£11329 May 2026PSA 10£11330 May 2026PSA 10£11331 May 2026PSA 10£1131 Jun 2026PSA 10£1132 Jun 2026PSA 10£1133 Jun 2026PSA 10£1134 Jun 2026PSA 10£1135 Jun 2026PSA 10£1136 Jun 2026PSA 10£1137 Jun 2026PSA 10£1138 Jun 2026PSA 10£1139 Jun 2026PSA 10£11310 Jun 2026PSA 10£11311 Jun 2026PSA 10£11312 Jun 2026PSA 10£11313 Jun 2026PSA 10£11314 Jun 2026PSA 10£11315 Jun 2026PSA 10£11316 Jun 2026PSA 10£11317 Jun 2026PSA 10£11318 Jun 2026PSA 10£11319 Jun 2026PSA 10£11320 Jun 2026PSA 10£11321 Jun 2026PSA 10£11322 Jun 2026PSA 10£11323 Jun 2026PSA 10£11324 Jun 2026PSA 10£11325 Jun 2026PSA 10£11326 Jun 2026PSA 10£11327 Jun 2026PSA 10£11328 Jun 2026PSA 10£11329 Jun 2026PSA 10£11330 Jun 2026PSA 10£1131 Jul 2026PSA 10£1132 Jul 2026PSA 10£1133 Jul 2026PSA 10£1134 Jul 2026PSA 10£1135 Jul 2026PSA 10£1136 Jul 2026PSA 10£1137 Jul 2026PSA 10£1138 Jul 2026PSA 10£1139 Jul 2026PSA 10£11310 Jul 2026PSA 10£11311 Jul 2026PSA 10£11312 Jul 2026PSA 10£11313 Jul 2026PSA 10£11314 Jul 2026PSA 10£11315 Jul 2026PSA 10£11316 Jul 2026PSA 10£11317 Jul 2026PSA 10£11318 Jul 2026PSA 10£11319 Jul 2026PSA 10£11320 Jul 2026PSA 10£11321 Jul 2026PSA 10£11322 Jul 2026PSA 10£11323 Jul 2026PSA 10£11324 Jul 2026PSA 10£11325 Jul 2026PSA 10£11326 Jul 2026PSA 10£11327 Jul 2026PSA 10£11328 Jul 2026PSA 10£11329 Jul 2026PSA 10£11330 Jul 2026PSA 10£11331 Jul 2026PSA 10£1131 Aug 2026PSA 10£1132 Aug 2026PSA 10£1133 Aug 2026PSA 10£1134 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1475 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1476 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1477 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1478 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1479 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14710 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14711 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14712 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14713 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14714 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14715 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14716 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14717 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14718 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14719 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14720 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14721 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14722 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14723 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14724 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14725 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14726 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14727 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14728 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14729 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14730 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14731 Aug 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1471 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1472 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1473 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1474 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1475 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1476 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1477 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1478 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1479 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14710 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14711 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14712 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14713 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14714 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14715 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14716 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14717 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14718 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14719 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14720 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14721 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14722 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14723 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14724 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14725 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14726 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14727 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14728 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14729 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14730 Sept 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1471 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1472 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1473 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1474 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1475 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1476 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1477 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1478 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£1479 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14710 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14711 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14712 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14713 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14714 Oct 2026PSA 10£113PSA 9£30.06CGC 10£67.73BGS 10£14715 Oct 2026PSA 10£152PSA 9£27.47CGC 10£91.06BGS 10£19716 Oct 2026PSA 10£152PSA 9£27.47CGC 10£91.06BGS 10£19717 Oct 2026PSA 10£152PSA 9£27.47CGC 10£91.06BGS 10£19718 Oct 2026PSA 10£152PSA 9£27.47CGC 10£91.06BGS 10£19719 Oct 2026PSA 10£152PSA 9£27.47CGC 10£91.06BGS 10£19720 Oct 2026PSA 10£152PSA 9£27.47CGC 10£91.06BGS 10£19721 Oct 2026PSA 10£152PSA 9£27.47CGC 10£91.06BGS 10£19722 Oct 2026PSA 10£152PSA 9£27.47CGC 10£91.06BGS 10£19723 Oct 2026PSA 10£152PSA 9£27.47CGC 10£60.96BGS 10£19724 Oct 2026PSA 10£152PSA 9£27.47CGC 10£60.96BGS 10£19725 Oct 2026PSA 10£152PSA 9£27.47CGC 10£60.96BGS 10£197
£50.00£100£150
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Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
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How much new stock hits the UK market each day The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This charts how many appear for this card once the daily rollup has readings for it.
A direct count of listings we saw appear — not an estimate of every listing on eBay.
Confirmed sales per day
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How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. This charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day, from the first confirmed sale for this card.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
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Live UK listings for this card The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This fills as soon as one appears for this card, showing asking prices cheapest first.
Where these numbers come from
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawkOur own market price, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.