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Prices by grade
Today's figures for every tier.
Raw · ungraded£2.48
PSA 10£151
PSA 9£7.52
CGC 10£60.21
BGS 10£196
At a glance
30-day high£2.48
30-day low£2.25
Tracked high£3.73
Days tracked192
IllustratorMasakazu Fukuda
Pokédex555
Price history
114 readings · 192d
HoloHawk awaiting data£2.48+5.1%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
16 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3617 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3618 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3619 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.4820 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.4821 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.4822 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.4823 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.48
£2.40£2.45
16 Oct16 Oct19 Oct19 Oct23 Oct23 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£2.48+10.2%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
23 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2524 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2525 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2526 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2527 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2528 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2529 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2530 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.251 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.252 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.253 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.254 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.255 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.256 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.257 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.258 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.259 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.2510 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.2511 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.2512 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.2513 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.2514 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.2515 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3616 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3617 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3618 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3619 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.4820 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.4821 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.4822 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.4823 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.48
£2.30£2.40
23 Sept15 Oct15 Oct19 Oct19 Oct23 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£2.48-19.0%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0615 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0616 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0617 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0618 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0619 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0620 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0621 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0622 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0623 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0624 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0625 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0626 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0627 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0628 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.2429 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.2430 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.241 May 2026PriceCharting£3.242 May 2026PriceCharting£3.243 May 2026PriceCharting£3.244 May 2026PriceCharting£2.945 May 2026PriceCharting£2.946 May 2026PriceCharting£2.947 May 2026PriceCharting£2.948 May 2026PriceCharting£2.949 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9410 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9411 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9412 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9413 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9414 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9415 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9416 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9317 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9318 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9319 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9320 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9321 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9322 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9323 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9324 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9325 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9326 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9327 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9328 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9329 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9330 May 2026PriceCharting£2.9331 May 2026PriceCharting£2.931 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.932 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.933 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.934 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.935 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.936 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.937 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.938 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.939 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.9310 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.9311 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.9312 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.9313 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.1214 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.1215 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.1216 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.1217 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.1218 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.1219 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.1220 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.1221 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.1222 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.1223 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.1224 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7325 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7326 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7327 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7328 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7329 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7330 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.731 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.732 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.733 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.734 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.735 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.736 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.737 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.738 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.739 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7310 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7311 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7312 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7313 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7314 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7315 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7316 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7317 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7318 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7319 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7320 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7321 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7322 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7323 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7324 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7325 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7326 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7327 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7328 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7329 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7330 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7331 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.731 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.732 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.733 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.734 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.735 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.736 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.737 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.738 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.739 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7310 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7311 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2412 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2413 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2414 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2415 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2416 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2417 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2418 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2419 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2420 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2321 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2322 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2323 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2324 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2325 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2326 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2327 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2328 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2329 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2330 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2331 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.231 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.232 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.233 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.234 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.235 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.236 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.237 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.238 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.239 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2510 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2511 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2512 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2513 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2514 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2515 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2516 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2517 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2518 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2519 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2520 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2521 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2522 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2523 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2524 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2525 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2526 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2527 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2528 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2529 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.2530 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.251 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.252 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.253 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.254 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.255 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.256 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.257 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.258 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.259 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.2510 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.2511 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.2512 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.2513 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.2514 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.2515 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3616 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3617 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3618 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3619 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.4820 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.4821 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.4822 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.4823 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.48
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Three independent readings on one scale. A reading is recorded only when a price changes, so a flat stretch means it held. Hover or tap any day. HoloHawk and PulseTCG have no readings for this card yet.
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£9.4115 Apr 2026PSA 10£9.4116 Apr 2026PSA 10£9.4117 Apr 2026PSA 10£9.4118 Apr 2026PSA 10£9.4119 Apr 2026PSA 10£9.4120 Apr 2026PSA 10£9.4121 Apr 2026PSA 10£9.4122 Apr 2026PSA 10£9.4123 Apr 2026PSA 10£9.4124 Apr 2026PSA 10£9.4125 Apr 2026PSA 10£9.4126 Apr 2026PSA 10£9.4127 Apr 2026PSA 10£9.4128 Apr 2026PSA 10£9.4129 Apr 2026PSA 10£9.4130 Apr 2026PSA 10£9.411 May 2026PSA 10£9.412 May 2026PSA 10£9.413 May 2026PSA 10£9.414 May 2026PSA 10£9.415 May 2026PSA 10£9.416 May 2026PSA 10£9.417 May 2026PSA 10£9.418 May 2026PSA 10£9.419 May 2026PSA 10£9.4110 May 2026PSA 10£9.4111 May 2026PSA 10£9.4112 May 2026PSA 10£9.4113 May 2026PSA 10£9.4114 May 2026PSA 10£9.4115 May 2026PSA 10£9.4116 May 2026PSA 10£9.4117 May 2026PSA 10£9.4118 May 2026PSA 10£9.4119 May 2026PSA 10£9.4120 May 2026PSA 10£9.4121 May 2026PSA 10£9.4122 May 2026PSA 10£9.4123 May 2026PSA 10£9.4124 May 2026PSA 10£9.4125 May 2026PSA 10£9.4126 May 2026PSA 10£9.4127 May 2026PSA 10£9.4128 May 2026PSA 10£9.4129 May 2026PSA 10£9.4130 May 2026PSA 10£9.4131 May 2026PSA 10£9.411 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.412 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.413 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.414 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.415 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.416 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.417 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.418 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.419 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4110 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4111 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4112 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4113 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4114 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4115 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4116 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4117 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4118 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4119 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4120 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4121 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4122 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4123 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4124 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4125 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4126 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4127 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4128 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4129 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.4130 Jun 2026PSA 10£9.411 Jul 2026PSA 10£9.412 Jul 2026PSA 10£9.413 Jul 2026PSA 10£9.414 Jul 2026PSA 10£9.415 Jul 2026PSA 10£9.416 Jul 2026PSA 10£9.417 Jul 2026PSA 10£9.418 Jul 2026PSA 10£9.419 Jul 2026PSA 10£9.4110 Jul 2026PSA 10£9.4111 Jul 2026PSA 10£15112 Jul 2026PSA 10£15113 Jul 2026PSA 10£15114 Jul 2026PSA 10£15115 Jul 2026PSA 10£15116 Jul 2026PSA 10£15117 Jul 2026PSA 10£15118 Jul 2026PSA 10£15119 Jul 2026PSA 10£15120 Jul 2026PSA 10£15121 Jul 2026PSA 10£15122 Jul 2026PSA 10£15123 Jul 2026PSA 10£15124 Jul 2026PSA 10£15125 Jul 2026PSA 10£15126 Jul 2026PSA 10£15127 Jul 2026PSA 10£15128 Jul 2026PSA 10£15129 Jul 2026PSA 10£15130 Jul 2026PSA 10£15131 Jul 2026PSA 10£1511 Aug 2026PSA 10£1512 Aug 2026PSA 10£1513 Aug 2026PSA 10£1514 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1965 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1966 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1967 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1968 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1969 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19610 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19611 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19612 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19613 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19614 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19615 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19616 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19617 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19618 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19619 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19620 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19621 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19622 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19623 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19624 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19625 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19626 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19627 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19628 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19629 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19630 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19631 Aug 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1961 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1962 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1963 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1964 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1965 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1966 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1967 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1968 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1969 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19610 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19611 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19612 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19613 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19614 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19615 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19616 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19617 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19618 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19619 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19620 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19621 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19622 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19623 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19624 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19625 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19626 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19627 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19628 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19629 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19630 Sept 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1961 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1962 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1963 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1964 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1965 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1966 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1967 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1968 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£1969 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19610 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19611 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19612 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19613 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19614 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19615 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19616 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19617 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19618 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19619 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19620 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19621 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19622 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£90.31BGS 10£19623 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£7.52CGC 10£60.21BGS 10£196
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Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
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How much new stock hits the UK market each day The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This charts how many appear for this card once the daily rollup has readings for it.
A direct count of listings we saw appear — not an estimate of every listing on eBay.
Confirmed sales per day
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How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. This charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day, from the first confirmed sale for this card.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
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Live UK listings for this card The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This fills as soon as one appears for this card, showing asking prices cheapest first.
Where these numbers come from
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawkOur own market price, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.