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Prices by grade
Today's figures for every tier.
Raw · ungraded£2.37
PSA 10£214
PSA 9£16.65
CGC 10£37.63
BGS 10£279
At a glance
30-day high£2.75
30-day low£2.37
Tracked high£3.05
Days tracked192
Price history
116 readings · 192d
HoloHawk awaiting data£2.370.0%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
16 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3717 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3718 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3719 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3720 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3721 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3722 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3723 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.37
£2.30£2.40
16 Oct16 Oct16 Oct23 Oct23 Oct23 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£2.37-10.2%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
23 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.7524 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.7525 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.7526 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.7527 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.7528 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.7529 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.7530 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.751 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.752 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.753 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.754 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.755 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.756 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.757 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.758 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.759 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.7510 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.7511 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.7512 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.7513 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.7514 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.7515 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3716 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3717 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3718 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3719 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3720 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3721 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3722 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3723 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.37
£2.40£2.50£2.60£2.70
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HoloHawk awaiting data£2.37-9.9%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6315 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6316 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6317 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6318 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6319 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6320 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6321 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6322 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6323 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6324 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6325 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6326 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6327 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6328 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6329 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.6330 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.631 May 2026PriceCharting£2.632 May 2026PriceCharting£2.633 May 2026PriceCharting£2.634 May 2026PriceCharting£2.635 May 2026PriceCharting£2.636 May 2026PriceCharting£2.637 May 2026PriceCharting£2.638 May 2026PriceCharting£2.639 May 2026PriceCharting£2.6310 May 2026PriceCharting£2.6311 May 2026PriceCharting£2.6312 May 2026PriceCharting£2.6313 May 2026PriceCharting£2.6314 May 2026PriceCharting£2.6315 May 2026PriceCharting£2.6316 May 2026PriceCharting£2.6317 May 2026PriceCharting£2.6318 May 2026PriceCharting£2.2619 May 2026PriceCharting£2.2620 May 2026PriceCharting£2.2621 May 2026PriceCharting£2.2622 May 2026PriceCharting£2.2623 May 2026PriceCharting£2.2624 May 2026PriceCharting£2.2625 May 2026PriceCharting£2.2626 May 2026PriceCharting£2.2627 May 2026PriceCharting£2.2628 May 2026PriceCharting£2.2629 May 2026PriceCharting£2.2630 May 2026PriceCharting£2.2631 May 2026PriceCharting£2.261 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.262 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.263 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.264 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.265 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.266 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.267 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.268 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.269 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2610 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2611 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2612 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2613 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2614 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2615 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2616 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2617 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2618 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2619 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2620 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2621 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2622 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2623 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2624 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2625 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2626 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2627 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2628 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2629 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.2630 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.261 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.262 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.263 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.264 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.265 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.266 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.437 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.438 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.439 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.4310 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.4311 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.4312 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.4313 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.4314 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.4315 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.4316 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.4317 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.4918 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.4919 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.4920 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.4921 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.4922 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.4923 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.4924 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.4925 Jul 2026PriceCharting£2.4926 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.0527 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.0528 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.0529 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.0530 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.0531 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.051 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.052 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.053 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.054 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.055 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.056 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.607 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.608 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.609 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6010 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6011 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6012 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6013 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6014 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6015 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6016 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.4917 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.4918 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.4919 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.4920 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.4921 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.4922 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.4923 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.4924 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6225 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6226 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6227 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6228 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6229 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6230 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.6231 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.621 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.622 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.623 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.644 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.645 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.646 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.647 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.648 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.649 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.6410 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.6411 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.6412 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.6413 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.6414 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.6415 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.6416 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.6417 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.6418 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.6419 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.6420 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.6421 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.6422 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.6423 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.7524 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.7525 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.7526 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.7527 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.7528 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.7529 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.7530 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2.751 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.752 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.753 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.754 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.755 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.756 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.757 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.758 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.759 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.7510 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.7511 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.7512 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.7513 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.7514 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.7515 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3716 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3717 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3718 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3719 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3720 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3721 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3722 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.3723 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2.37
£2.40£2.60£2.80£3.00
14 Apr8 May4 Jun27 Jun20 Jul23 Oct
Three independent readings on one scale. A reading is recorded only when a price changes, so a flat stretch means it held. Hover or tap any day. HoloHawk and PulseTCG have no readings for this card yet.
17 Apr 2026PSA 10£99.3218 Apr 2026PSA 10£99.3219 Apr 2026PSA 10£99.3220 Apr 2026PSA 10£99.3221 Apr 2026PSA 10£99.3222 Apr 2026PSA 10£99.3223 Apr 2026PSA 10£99.3224 Apr 2026PSA 10£99.3225 Apr 2026PSA 10£99.3226 Apr 2026PSA 10£99.3227 Apr 2026PSA 10£99.3228 Apr 2026PSA 10£99.5129 Apr 2026PSA 10£99.5130 Apr 2026PSA 10£99.511 May 2026PSA 10£99.512 May 2026PSA 10£99.513 May 2026PSA 10£99.514 May 2026PSA 10£99.515 May 2026PSA 10£99.516 May 2026PSA 10£99.517 May 2026PSA 10£99.518 May 2026PSA 10£99.729 May 2026PSA 10£99.7210 May 2026PSA 10£99.7211 May 2026PSA 10£99.7212 May 2026PSA 10£99.7213 May 2026PSA 10£99.7214 May 2026PSA 10£99.7215 May 2026PSA 10£99.7216 May 2026PSA 10£99.7217 May 2026PSA 10£99.7218 May 2026PSA 10£99.9119 May 2026PSA 10£99.9120 May 2026PSA 10£99.9121 May 2026PSA 10£99.9122 May 2026PSA 10£99.9123 May 2026PSA 10£99.9124 May 2026PSA 10£99.9125 May 2026PSA 10£99.9126 May 2026PSA 10£99.9127 May 2026PSA 10£89.2328 May 2026PSA 10£89.2329 May 2026PSA 10£89.2330 May 2026PSA 10£89.2331 May 2026PSA 10£89.231 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.232 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.233 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.234 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.235 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.236 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.407 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.408 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.409 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.4010 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.4011 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.4012 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.4013 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.4014 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.4015 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.4016 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.5717 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.5718 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.5719 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.5720 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.5721 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.5722 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.5723 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.5724 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.5725 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.5726 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.7527 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.7528 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.7529 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.7530 Jun 2026PSA 10£89.751 Jul 2026PSA 10£89.752 Jul 2026PSA 10£89.753 Jul 2026PSA 10£89.754 Jul 2026PSA 10£89.755 Jul 2026PSA 10£89.756 Jul 2026PSA 10£89.927 Jul 2026PSA 10£89.928 Jul 2026PSA 10£89.929 Jul 2026PSA 10£89.9210 Jul 2026PSA 10£89.9211 Jul 2026PSA 10£89.9212 Jul 2026PSA 10£89.9213 Jul 2026PSA 10£89.9214 Jul 2026PSA 10£89.9215 Jul 2026PSA 10£89.9216 Jul 2026PSA 10£89.9217 Jul 2026PSA 10£95.2718 Jul 2026PSA 10£95.2719 Jul 2026PSA 10£95.2720 Jul 2026PSA 10£95.2721 Jul 2026PSA 10£95.2722 Jul 2026PSA 10£95.2723 Jul 2026PSA 10£95.2724 Jul 2026PSA 10£95.2725 Jul 2026PSA 10£95.2726 Jul 2026PSA 10£97.2627 Jul 2026PSA 10£97.2628 Jul 2026PSA 10£97.2629 Jul 2026PSA 10£97.2630 Jul 2026PSA 10£97.2631 Jul 2026PSA 10£97.261 Aug 2026PSA 10£97.262 Aug 2026PSA 10£97.263 Aug 2026PSA 10£97.264 Aug 2026PSA 10£97.26PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1265 Aug 2026PSA 10£97.26PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1266 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1487 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1488 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1489 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£14810 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£14811 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£14812 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£14813 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£14814 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£14815 Aug 2026PSA 10£114PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£14816 Aug 2026PSA 10£101PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13217 Aug 2026PSA 10£101PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13218 Aug 2026PSA 10£101PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13219 Aug 2026PSA 10£101PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13220 Aug 2026PSA 10£101PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13221 Aug 2026PSA 10£101PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13222 Aug 2026PSA 10£101PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13223 Aug 2026PSA 10£101PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13224 Aug 2026PSA 10£97.82PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£12725 Aug 2026PSA 10£97.82PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£12726 Aug 2026PSA 10£97.82PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£12727 Aug 2026PSA 10£97.82PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£12728 Aug 2026PSA 10£97.82PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£12729 Aug 2026PSA 10£97.82PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£12730 Aug 2026PSA 10£97.82PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£12731 Aug 2026PSA 10£97.82PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1271 Sept 2026PSA 10£97.82PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1272 Sept 2026PSA 10£97.82PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1273 Sept 2026PSA 10£102PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1324 Sept 2026PSA 10£102PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1325 Sept 2026PSA 10£102PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1326 Sept 2026PSA 10£102PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1327 Sept 2026PSA 10£102PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1328 Sept 2026PSA 10£102PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1329 Sept 2026PSA 10£102PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13210 Sept 2026PSA 10£102PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13211 Sept 2026PSA 10£102PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13212 Sept 2026PSA 10£102PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13213 Sept 2026PSA 10£102PSA 9£15.05CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13214 Sept 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.29CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13415 Sept 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.29CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13416 Sept 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.29CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13417 Sept 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.29CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13418 Sept 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.29CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13419 Sept 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.29CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13420 Sept 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.29CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13421 Sept 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.29CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13422 Sept 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.29CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13423 Sept 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13424 Sept 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13425 Sept 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13426 Sept 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13427 Sept 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13428 Sept 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13429 Sept 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13430 Sept 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1341 Oct 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1342 Oct 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1343 Oct 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1344 Oct 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1345 Oct 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1346 Oct 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1347 Oct 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1348 Oct 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£1349 Oct 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13410 Oct 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13411 Oct 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13412 Oct 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13413 Oct 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13414 Oct 2026PSA 10£103PSA 9£16.62CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£13415 Oct 2026PSA 10£214PSA 9£16.71CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£27916 Oct 2026PSA 10£214PSA 9£16.71CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£27917 Oct 2026PSA 10£214PSA 9£16.71CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£27918 Oct 2026PSA 10£214PSA 9£16.71CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£27919 Oct 2026PSA 10£214PSA 9£16.71CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£27920 Oct 2026PSA 10£214PSA 9£16.71CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£27921 Oct 2026PSA 10£214PSA 9£16.71CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£27922 Oct 2026PSA 10£214PSA 9£16.71CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£27923 Oct 2026PSA 10£214PSA 9£16.65CGC 10£37.63BGS 10£279
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Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
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How much new stock hits the UK market each day The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This charts how many appear for this card once the daily rollup has readings for it.
A direct count of listings we saw appear — not an estimate of every listing on eBay.
Confirmed sales per day
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How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. This charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day, from the first confirmed sale for this card.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
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Live UK listings for this card The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This fills as soon as one appears for this card, showing asking prices cheapest first.
Where these numbers come from
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawkOur own market price, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.
