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Prices by grade
PSA 10 = 74.9× raw
Today's figures for every tier. Graded history starts building tonight.
Raw · ungraded£19.20
Grade 9£72.12
Grade 9.5£79.03
PSA 10£1,438
BGS 10£1,870
CGC 10£185
A PSA 10 sells for 74.9× the raw card — a gap of £1,419. Grading fees and the risk of a 9 come out of that.
At a glance
30-day high£19.20
30-day low£17.00
Tracked high£24.96
Days tracked134
Price history
113 readings · 134d
HoloHawk Est. MarketPriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
16 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.3617 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.3618 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.2819 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£19.2020 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£19.2021 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£21.67PriceCharting£19.2022 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£21.67PriceCharting£19.2023 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£21.67PriceCharting£19.2024 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£21.67PriceCharting£19.2025 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£21.67PriceCharting£19.2026 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£21.67PriceCharting£19.20
£18.00£20.00
16 Aug18 Aug19 Aug23 Aug
HoloHawk Est. MarketPriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
24 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.3625 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.3626 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.3627 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.2828 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.2829 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.0030 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.0031 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.001 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.002 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.003 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.004 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.005 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.006 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.007 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.008 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.009 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.7310 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.7311 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.7312 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.7313 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.7314 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£17.7315 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£17.7316 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.7317 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.7318 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£17.7319 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£19.2020 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£19.2021 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£21.67PriceCharting£19.2022 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£21.67PriceCharting£19.2023 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£21.67PriceCharting£19.2024 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£21.67PriceCharting£19.2025 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£21.67PriceCharting£19.2026 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£21.67PriceCharting£19.20
£18.00£20.00
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HoloHawk Est. MarketPriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£24.6015 Apr 2026PriceCharting£24.6016 Apr 2026PriceCharting£24.6017 Apr 2026PriceCharting£24.6018 Apr 2026PriceCharting£24.6019 Apr 2026PriceCharting£23.7820 Apr 2026PriceCharting£23.7821 Apr 2026PriceCharting£23.7822 Apr 2026PriceCharting£24.6523 Apr 2026PriceCharting£24.6524 Apr 2026PriceCharting£24.6525 Apr 2026PriceCharting£24.6126 Apr 2026PriceCharting£24.6127 Apr 2026PriceCharting£24.6128 Apr 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£24.3729 Apr 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£24.3730 Apr 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£24.371 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£24.962 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£24.963 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£24.964 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£24.965 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£24.966 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£24.967 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£24.968 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£22.399 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£22.3910 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£22.3911 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£22.3912 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£24.2313 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£24.2314 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£24.2315 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£24.2316 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£22.7117 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£22.7118 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£24.2319 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£24.2320 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£24.2321 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£22.1222 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£22.1223 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£22.1224 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£22.1225 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£22.1226 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£22.1227 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£22.1228 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£22.1229 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£22.1230 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£22.4031 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£22.401 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£22.402 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£22.403 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£22.404 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£22.405 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£22.406 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£22.407 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£22.408 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£22.409 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£193PriceCharting£22.4010 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£193PriceCharting£22.5311 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£193PriceCharting£22.5312 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£193PriceCharting£22.5313 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£193PriceCharting£22.5314 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£193PriceCharting£22.5315 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£193PriceCharting£22.5316 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£193PriceCharting£22.5317 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£193PriceCharting£22.5318 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£193PriceCharting£22.5319 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£21.6820 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£22.0921 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£22.0922 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£22.0923 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£22.0924 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£22.0925 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£22.0926 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£22.0927 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£22.0928 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£20.8029 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£20.8030 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£20.801 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£20.802 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£20.803 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£22.484 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£22.485 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£14.43PriceCharting£22.486 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£14.43PriceCharting£22.487 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£14.43PriceCharting£21.298 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£173PriceCharting£21.299 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£173PriceCharting£21.2910 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£173PriceCharting£21.2911 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£173PriceCharting£21.2912 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£21.2913 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£21.2914 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£21.0515 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£168PriceCharting£21.0516 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£168PriceCharting£21.0517 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£168PriceCharting£21.0518 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£21.0519 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£21.0520 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£21.0521 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£21.0522 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£21.0523 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.2824 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.2825 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.2826 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.2827 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.2828 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.2829 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.0030 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.0031 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.001 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.002 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.003 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.004 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.005 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.006 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.007 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.008 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.009 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.7310 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.7311 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.7312 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.7313 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.7314 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£17.7315 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£17.7316 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.7317 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.36PriceCharting£17.7318 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£18.28PriceCharting£17.7319 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£19.2020 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£20.21PriceCharting£19.2021 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£21.67PriceCharting£19.2022 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£21.67PriceCharting£19.2023 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£21.67PriceCharting£19.2024 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£21.67PriceCharting£19.2025 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£21.67PriceCharting£19.2026 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£21.67PriceCharting£19.20
£100
14 Apr23 May3 Jul26 Aug
HoloHawk Est. Market · PriceCharting · PulseTCG. Hover any point for that day's figures. Flat sections mean the price did not move — a reading is recorded only when it changes. PulseTCG has no readings for this card yet.
Graded price history
PSA 10 · £1,438
PSA 10Grade 9.5Grade 9BGS 10CGC 10
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£57215 Apr 2026PSA 10£57216 Apr 2026PSA 10£57817 Apr 2026PSA 10£57818 Apr 2026PSA 10£57819 Apr 2026PSA 10£57820 Apr 2026PSA 10£57821 Apr 2026PSA 10£57822 Apr 2026PSA 10£57923 Apr 2026PSA 10£57924 Apr 2026PSA 10£57925 Apr 2026PSA 10£57926 Apr 2026PSA 10£57927 Apr 2026PSA 10£57928 Apr 2026PSA 10£57929 Apr 2026PSA 10£57930 Apr 2026PSA 10£5791 May 2026PSA 10£5792 May 2026PSA 10£5793 May 2026PSA 10£5794 May 2026PSA 10£5795 May 2026PSA 10£6866 May 2026PSA 10£6867 May 2026PSA 10£6868 May 2026PSA 10£1,0849 May 2026PSA 10£1,08410 May 2026PSA 10£1,08411 May 2026PSA 10£1,08412 May 2026PSA 10£1,08413 May 2026PSA 10£1,08414 May 2026PSA 10£1,08415 May 2026PSA 10£1,08416 May 2026PSA 10£1,08417 May 2026PSA 10£1,08418 May 2026PSA 10£1,08419 May 2026PSA 10£1,08420 May 2026PSA 10£1,08421 May 2026PSA 10£1,08422 May 2026PSA 10£1,08423 May 2026PSA 10£1,08424 May 2026PSA 10£1,08425 May 2026PSA 10£1,08426 May 2026PSA 10£1,08427 May 2026PSA 10£1,08428 May 2026PSA 10£1,08429 May 2026PSA 10£1,08430 May 2026PSA 10£1,08431 May 2026PSA 10£1,0841 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,0842 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,0843 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,0844 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,0845 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,1196 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,1197 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,1198 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,1199 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,11910 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,13911 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,13912 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,13913 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,13914 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,13915 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,13916 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,13917 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,13918 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,13919 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,13520 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,13221 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,13222 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,13223 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,13224 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,13225 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,13226 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,13227 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,13228 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,12729 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,12730 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,1271 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,1272 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,1273 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,1194 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,1195 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,1196 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,1197 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,1198 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,1199 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11910 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11911 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11912 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11913 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11914 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11915 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11916 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11917 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11918 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11919 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11920 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11921 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11922 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11923 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11924 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11925 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11926 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11927 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11928 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11929 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11930 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,11931 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,1191 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,1192 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,1193 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,1194 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,119Grade 9.5£59.74Grade 9£57.73BGS 10£1,455CGC 10£1435 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,119Grade 9.5£59.74Grade 9£57.73BGS 10£1,455CGC 10£1436 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,119Grade 9.5£59.74Grade 9£57.73BGS 10£1,455CGC 10£1437 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,109Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,441CGC 10£1438 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,109Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,441CGC 10£1439 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,438Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,870CGC 10£14310 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,438Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,870CGC 10£14311 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,438Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,870CGC 10£14312 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,438Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,870CGC 10£14313 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,438Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,870CGC 10£18514 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,438Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,870CGC 10£18515 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,438Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,870CGC 10£18516 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,438Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,870CGC 10£18517 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,438Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,870CGC 10£18518 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,438Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,870CGC 10£18519 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,438Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,870CGC 10£18520 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,438Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,870CGC 10£18521 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,438Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,870CGC 10£18522 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,438Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,870CGC 10£18523 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,438Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,870CGC 10£18524 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,438Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,870CGC 10£18525 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,438Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,870CGC 10£18526 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,438Grade 9.5£79.03Grade 9£72.12BGS 10£1,870CGC 10£185
£1,000
14 Apr23 May3 Jul26 Aug
Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
0 today
How many new UK listings appear for this card each day. Rising supply against a
falling price is the clearest sell signal there is. This counts what we saw, so it is a sample of
the market rather than a total.
9 Aug 2026New listings/day110 Aug 2026New listings/day011 Aug 2026New listings/day012 Aug 2026New listings/day013 Aug 2026New listings/day014 Aug 2026New listings/day115 Aug 2026New listings/day016 Aug 2026New listings/day117 Aug 2026New listings/day018 Aug 2026New listings/day119 Aug 2026New listings/day120 Aug 2026New listings/day021 Aug 2026New listings/day122 Aug 2026New listings/day023 Aug 2026New listings/day124 Aug 2026New listings/day025 Aug 2026New listings/day026 Aug 2026New listings/day027 Aug 2026New listings/day028 Aug 2026New listings/day029 Aug 2026New listings/day030 Aug 2026New listings/day0
01
9 Aug16 Aug23 Aug30 Aug
New UK listings we saw appear each day. A direct count of what the scanner observed, not an estimate of everything on eBay. Source: HoloHawk, observed directly on eBay UK.
Confirmed sales per day
Auctions that closed with a winning bid. A sale we watched happen, not a listing that
disappeared for unknown reasons.
16 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day017 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day018 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day019 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day020 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day021 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day0
-101
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UK auctions that closed with a winning bid each day. Source: HoloHawk, observed directly on eBay UK.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
5 live
Fixed-price listings we are currently tracking, cheapest first. Asking prices, not sales,
and a sample of what is listed rather than everything on eBay. Each row opens the listing on eBay — HoloHawk earns a commission on purchases made through it, and it never changes the price you pay.
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawk Est. MarketOur own estimate, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.