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Prices by grade
Today's figures for every tier.
Raw · ungraded£4.00
PSA 10£2,634
PSA 9£25.96
CGC 10£1,054
BGS 10£3,424
At a glance
30-day high£4.00
30-day low£3.27
Tracked high£4.00
Days tracked194
IllustratorKen Sugimori
Pokédex68
Price history
133 readings · 194d
HoloHawk awaiting data£4.00+9.9%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
18 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.6419 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4120 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.3721 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.3722 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.3723 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.7624 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.7625 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.00
£3.40£3.60£3.80£4.00
18 Oct19 Oct20 Oct20 Oct23 Oct25 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£4.00+22.3%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
25 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.2726 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.4027 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.4028 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.5029 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.5030 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.501 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.502 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.503 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.504 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.505 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.506 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.507 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.508 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.509 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.5010 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.5011 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.5012 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.5013 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.5014 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.5015 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.6416 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.6417 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.6418 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.6419 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4120 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.3721 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.3722 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.3723 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.7624 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.7625 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.00
£3.40£3.60£3.80£4.00
25 Sept28 Sept2 Oct19 Oct20 Oct25 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£4.00+24.6%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.2115 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.2116 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.2117 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.2418 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.2419 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0120 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0121 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0122 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0023 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0024 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0025 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0026 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0027 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0028 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0029 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.0030 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.001 May 2026PriceCharting£2.632 May 2026PriceCharting£2.633 May 2026PriceCharting£2.634 May 2026PriceCharting£2.635 May 2026PriceCharting£2.546 May 2026PriceCharting£2.547 May 2026PriceCharting£2.548 May 2026PriceCharting£3.009 May 2026PriceCharting£3.0010 May 2026PriceCharting£3.1111 May 2026PriceCharting£3.1112 May 2026PriceCharting£3.1113 May 2026PriceCharting£3.4914 May 2026PriceCharting£3.4915 May 2026PriceCharting£3.4916 May 2026PriceCharting£3.4917 May 2026PriceCharting£3.4918 May 2026PriceCharting£3.4919 May 2026PriceCharting£3.4920 May 2026PriceCharting£3.6721 May 2026PriceCharting£3.6722 May 2026PriceCharting£3.6723 May 2026PriceCharting£3.6724 May 2026PriceCharting£3.6725 May 2026PriceCharting£3.7326 May 2026PriceCharting£3.7327 May 2026PriceCharting£3.7328 May 2026PriceCharting£3.7329 May 2026PriceCharting£3.7330 May 2026PriceCharting£3.7231 May 2026PriceCharting£3.181 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.182 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.183 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.184 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.015 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.016 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.017 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.698 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.699 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.6910 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7311 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.7312 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.8213 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.8214 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.8215 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.8216 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.0117 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.0118 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.0119 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.0120 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.0121 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.0122 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.2023 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.2024 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.1125 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.1126 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.1127 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.0028 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.0029 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.0030 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.001 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.002 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.003 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.004 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.765 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.766 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.397 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.398 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.399 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.3910 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.2411 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.2412 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.2413 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.2414 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.2415 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.2416 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.2917 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.2918 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.2819 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.2820 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.2821 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.3822 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.3823 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.3824 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.4825 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.4826 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.4827 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.4828 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.8729 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.8730 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.8731 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.301 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.302 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.203 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.204 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.205 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.206 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.907 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.908 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.909 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.8710 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2.8711 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2312 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2313 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2314 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2315 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2316 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2317 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2318 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2319 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.2320 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.4121 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.4122 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.4123 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.4124 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.4125 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.4126 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.4127 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7928 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7929 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7930 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.4831 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.481 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.482 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.483 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.484 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.485 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.306 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.307 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.308 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.429 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.4210 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.4211 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.7012 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.7013 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.7014 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.7015 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.7016 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.2017 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.2018 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.2019 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.2020 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.2021 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.2022 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.2023 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.2724 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.2725 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.2726 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.4027 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.4028 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.5029 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.5030 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.501 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.502 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.503 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.504 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.505 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.506 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.507 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.508 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.509 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.5010 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.5011 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.5012 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.5013 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.5014 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.5015 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.6416 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.6417 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.6418 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.6419 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.4120 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.3721 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.3722 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.3723 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.7624 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.7625 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.00
£3.00£3.50£4.00
14 Apr11 May11 Jun7 Jul3 Aug25 Oct
Three independent readings on one scale. A reading is recorded only when a price changes, so a flat stretch means it held. Hover or tap any day. HoloHawk and PulseTCG have no readings for this card yet.
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£42615 Apr 2026PSA 10£42616 Apr 2026PSA 10£42617 Apr 2026PSA 10£42718 Apr 2026PSA 10£42719 Apr 2026PSA 10£42720 Apr 2026PSA 10£42721 Apr 2026PSA 10£42722 Apr 2026PSA 10£42723 Apr 2026PSA 10£42724 Apr 2026PSA 10£42725 Apr 2026PSA 10£42726 Apr 2026PSA 10£42727 Apr 2026PSA 10£42728 Apr 2026PSA 10£42729 Apr 2026PSA 10£44130 Apr 2026PSA 10£4411 May 2026PSA 10£4432 May 2026PSA 10£4433 May 2026PSA 10£4434 May 2026PSA 10£4435 May 2026PSA 10£4446 May 2026PSA 10£4447 May 2026PSA 10£4448 May 2026PSA 10£4449 May 2026PSA 10£44410 May 2026PSA 10£44411 May 2026PSA 10£44412 May 2026PSA 10£44413 May 2026PSA 10£44314 May 2026PSA 10£44315 May 2026PSA 10£44316 May 2026PSA 10£44217 May 2026PSA 10£44218 May 2026PSA 10£44219 May 2026PSA 10£44220 May 2026PSA 10£44221 May 2026PSA 10£44222 May 2026PSA 10£44223 May 2026PSA 10£44224 May 2026PSA 10£44225 May 2026PSA 10£44126 May 2026PSA 10£44127 May 2026PSA 10£44128 May 2026PSA 10£44129 May 2026PSA 10£44130 May 2026PSA 10£43631 May 2026PSA 10£4361 Jun 2026PSA 10£4362 Jun 2026PSA 10£4363 Jun 2026PSA 10£4364 Jun 2026PSA 10£4365 Jun 2026PSA 10£4366 Jun 2026PSA 10£4367 Jun 2026PSA 10£4368 Jun 2026PSA 10£4369 Jun 2026PSA 10£43610 Jun 2026PSA 10£43611 Jun 2026PSA 10£43612 Jun 2026PSA 10£43613 Jun 2026PSA 10£43614 Jun 2026PSA 10£43615 Jun 2026PSA 10£43616 Jun 2026PSA 10£43617 Jun 2026PSA 10£43618 Jun 2026PSA 10£43619 Jun 2026PSA 10£43620 Jun 2026PSA 10£43621 Jun 2026PSA 10£43622 Jun 2026PSA 10£43623 Jun 2026PSA 10£43624 Jun 2026PSA 10£43625 Jun 2026PSA 10£43626 Jun 2026PSA 10£43627 Jun 2026PSA 10£43628 Jun 2026PSA 10£43629 Jun 2026PSA 10£43630 Jun 2026PSA 10£4361 Jul 2026PSA 10£4362 Jul 2026PSA 10£4363 Jul 2026PSA 10£4364 Jul 2026PSA 10£4365 Jul 2026PSA 10£4366 Jul 2026PSA 10£4367 Jul 2026PSA 10£4368 Jul 2026PSA 10£4369 Jul 2026PSA 10£43610 Jul 2026PSA 10£43611 Jul 2026PSA 10£43612 Jul 2026PSA 10£43613 Jul 2026PSA 10£43614 Jul 2026PSA 10£43615 Jul 2026PSA 10£43616 Jul 2026PSA 10£43617 Jul 2026PSA 10£43618 Jul 2026PSA 10£43619 Jul 2026PSA 10£43620 Jul 2026PSA 10£43621 Jul 2026PSA 10£43622 Jul 2026PSA 10£43623 Jul 2026PSA 10£43624 Jul 2026PSA 10£43625 Jul 2026PSA 10£43626 Jul 2026PSA 10£43627 Jul 2026PSA 10£43628 Jul 2026PSA 10£43629 Jul 2026PSA 10£43630 Jul 2026PSA 10£43631 Jul 2026PSA 10£4361 Aug 2026PSA 10£4362 Aug 2026PSA 10£4363 Aug 2026PSA 10£4364 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£19.14CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5675 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£19.14CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5676 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£20.73CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5677 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£20.73CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5678 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£20.73CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5679 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£20.73CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56710 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£20.73CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56711 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£22.58CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56712 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£22.58CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56713 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£22.58CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56714 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£22.58CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56715 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£22.58CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56716 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£22.58CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56717 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£22.58CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56718 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£22.58CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56719 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£22.58CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56720 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.85CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56721 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.85CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56722 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.85CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56723 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.49CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56724 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.49CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56725 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.49CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56726 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.49CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56727 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.05CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56728 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.05CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56729 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.05CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56730 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£22.58CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56731 Aug 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£22.58CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5671 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£22.58CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5672 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£22.58CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5673 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£22.58CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5674 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£22.58CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5675 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£23.85CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5676 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£23.85CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5677 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£23.85CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5678 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.64CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5679 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.64CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56710 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.64CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56711 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.64CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56712 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.64CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56713 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.64CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56714 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.64CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56715 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.64CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56716 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.39CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56717 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.39CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56718 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.39CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56719 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.39CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56720 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.39CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56721 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.39CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56722 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.39CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56723 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.44CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56724 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.44CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56725 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.44CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56726 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£20.68CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56727 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£20.68CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56728 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£20.68CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56729 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£20.68CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56730 Sept 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£20.68CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5671 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£20.68CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5672 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.51CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5673 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.51CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5674 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.51CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5675 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.51CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5676 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.51CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5677 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.51CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5678 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.51CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£5679 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.51CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56710 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.51CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56711 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.51CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56712 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.51CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56713 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.51CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56714 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.51CGC 10£26.34BGS 10£56715 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.55CGC 10£39.51BGS 10£56716 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.55CGC 10£39.51BGS 10£56717 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.55CGC 10£39.51BGS 10£56718 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.55CGC 10£39.51BGS 10£56719 Oct 2026PSA 10£436PSA 9£21.52CGC 10£39.51BGS 10£56720 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,362PSA 9£25.73CGC 10£817BGS 10£1,77121 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,362PSA 9£25.73CGC 10£817BGS 10£1,77122 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,362PSA 9£25.73CGC 10£817BGS 10£1,77123 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,448PSA 9£25.73CGC 10£579BGS 10£1,88224 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,448PSA 9£25.73CGC 10£579BGS 10£1,88225 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,634PSA 9£25.96CGC 10£1,054BGS 10£3,424
£1,000£2,000£3,000
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Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
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How much new stock hits the UK market each day The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This charts how many appear for this card once the daily rollup has readings for it.
A direct count of listings we saw appear — not an estimate of every listing on eBay.
Confirmed sales per day
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How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. This charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day, from the first confirmed sale for this card.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
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Live UK listings for this card The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This fills as soon as one appears for this card, showing asking prices cheapest first.
Where these numbers come from
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawkOur own market price, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.