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Prices by grade
PSA 10 = 27.9× raw
Today's figures for every tier.
Raw · ungraded£5.42
PSA 10£151
PSA 9£46.47
CGC 10£60.02
BGS 10£197
A PSA 10 sells for 27.9× the raw card — a gap of £146. Grading fees and the risk of a 9 come out of that.
At a glance
30-day high£6.00
30-day low£4.77
Tracked high£6.71
Days tracked195
IllustratorMilky Isobe
Price history
119 readings · 195d
HoloHawk awaiting data£5.42+13.6%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
19 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2120 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2121 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2122 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2123 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2124 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2125 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2126 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.42
£4.80£5.00£5.20£5.40
19 Oct19 Oct19 Oct23 Oct23 Oct26 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£5.42-9.7%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
26 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.0027 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.0028 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.0029 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.0030 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.001 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.002 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.003 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.004 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.005 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.006 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.007 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.008 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.009 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.0010 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.0011 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.0012 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.0013 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.0014 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.0015 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.7716 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.7717 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.7718 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.7719 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2120 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2121 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2122 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2123 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2124 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2125 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2126 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.42
£5.00£5.50£6.00
26 Sept26 Sept15 Oct19 Oct23 Oct26 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£5.42+30.9%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£4.1415 Apr 2026PriceCharting£4.1416 Apr 2026PriceCharting£4.1417 Apr 2026PriceCharting£4.1418 Apr 2026PriceCharting£4.1419 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.7420 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.7421 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.7422 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.7423 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.7424 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.7425 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.7426 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.7427 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.3828 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.3829 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.3830 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.381 May 2026PriceCharting£3.382 May 2026PriceCharting£3.383 May 2026PriceCharting£3.384 May 2026PriceCharting£3.385 May 2026PriceCharting£3.386 May 2026PriceCharting£3.387 May 2026PriceCharting£3.388 May 2026PriceCharting£3.389 May 2026PriceCharting£3.3810 May 2026PriceCharting£3.3811 May 2026PriceCharting£3.3812 May 2026PriceCharting£3.3813 May 2026PriceCharting£3.3814 May 2026PriceCharting£4.3015 May 2026PriceCharting£4.3016 May 2026PriceCharting£4.3017 May 2026PriceCharting£4.3018 May 2026PriceCharting£4.3019 May 2026PriceCharting£4.3020 May 2026PriceCharting£4.3021 May 2026PriceCharting£4.3022 May 2026PriceCharting£4.4023 May 2026PriceCharting£4.4024 May 2026PriceCharting£4.4025 May 2026PriceCharting£4.4026 May 2026PriceCharting£4.4027 May 2026PriceCharting£4.4028 May 2026PriceCharting£4.4029 May 2026PriceCharting£4.4030 May 2026PriceCharting£4.1331 May 2026PriceCharting£4.131 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.132 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.133 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.134 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.135 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.136 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.137 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.138 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.139 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.1310 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.1311 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.1312 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.1313 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.1314 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.1315 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.1316 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.1317 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.1318 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.1319 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.1320 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.1321 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.1322 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.1323 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.5824 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.5825 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.5826 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.5827 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.5828 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.5829 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.5830 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.581 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.582 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.563 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.564 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.565 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.566 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.567 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.568 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.569 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.5610 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.5611 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.5612 Jul 2026PriceCharting£5.2913 Jul 2026PriceCharting£5.2914 Jul 2026PriceCharting£5.2915 Jul 2026PriceCharting£5.2916 Jul 2026PriceCharting£5.2917 Jul 2026PriceCharting£5.2918 Jul 2026PriceCharting£5.2919 Jul 2026PriceCharting£5.2920 Jul 2026PriceCharting£5.2921 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.0022 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.0023 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.0024 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.0025 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.0026 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.0027 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.0628 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.0629 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.0630 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.0631 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.061 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.062 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.063 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.064 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.065 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.066 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.717 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.718 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.719 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.7110 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.7111 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.7112 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.7113 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.7114 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.7115 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.7116 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.7117 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.7118 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.7119 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.7120 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.7121 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.7122 Aug 2026PriceCharting£5.9323 Aug 2026PriceCharting£5.9324 Aug 2026PriceCharting£5.9325 Aug 2026PriceCharting£5.9326 Aug 2026PriceCharting£5.9327 Aug 2026PriceCharting£5.9328 Aug 2026PriceCharting£5.9329 Aug 2026PriceCharting£5.9330 Aug 2026PriceCharting£5.9331 Aug 2026PriceCharting£5.931 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.932 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.933 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.934 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.935 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.936 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.937 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.938 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.939 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.9010 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.9011 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.9012 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.9013 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.9014 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.9015 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.9016 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.9017 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.9018 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.9019 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.9020 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.9021 Sept 2026PriceCharting£5.9022 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.0023 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.0024 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.0025 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.0026 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.0027 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.0028 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.0029 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.0030 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.001 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.002 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.003 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.004 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.005 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.006 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.007 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.008 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.009 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.0010 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.0011 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.0012 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.0013 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.0014 Oct 2026PriceCharting£6.0015 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.7716 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.7717 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.7718 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.7719 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2120 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2121 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2122 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2123 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2124 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2125 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.2126 Oct 2026PriceCharting£5.42
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Three independent readings on one scale. A reading is recorded only when a price changes, so a flat stretch means it held. Hover or tap any day. HoloHawk and PulseTCG have no readings for this card yet.
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£12315 Apr 2026PSA 10£12316 Apr 2026PSA 10£12317 Apr 2026PSA 10£12318 Apr 2026PSA 10£12319 Apr 2026PSA 10£11920 Apr 2026PSA 10£11921 Apr 2026PSA 10£11922 Apr 2026PSA 10£11923 Apr 2026PSA 10£11924 Apr 2026PSA 10£11925 Apr 2026PSA 10£11926 Apr 2026PSA 10£11927 Apr 2026PSA 10£11028 Apr 2026PSA 10£11029 Apr 2026PSA 10£11030 Apr 2026PSA 10£1101 May 2026PSA 10£1102 May 2026PSA 10£1103 May 2026PSA 10£1104 May 2026PSA 10£1025 May 2026PSA 10£1026 May 2026PSA 10£1027 May 2026PSA 10£1028 May 2026PSA 10£1029 May 2026PSA 10£10210 May 2026PSA 10£10211 May 2026PSA 10£10212 May 2026PSA 10£10213 May 2026PSA 10£10214 May 2026PSA 10£10215 May 2026PSA 10£10216 May 2026PSA 10£10217 May 2026PSA 10£10218 May 2026PSA 10£10219 May 2026PSA 10£10220 May 2026PSA 10£10221 May 2026PSA 10£10222 May 2026PSA 10£12423 May 2026PSA 10£12424 May 2026PSA 10£12425 May 2026PSA 10£12426 May 2026PSA 10£12427 May 2026PSA 10£12428 May 2026PSA 10£12429 May 2026PSA 10£12430 May 2026PSA 10£12031 May 2026PSA 10£1201 Jun 2026PSA 10£1202 Jun 2026PSA 10£1203 Jun 2026PSA 10£1204 Jun 2026PSA 10£1205 Jun 2026PSA 10£1206 Jun 2026PSA 10£1207 Jun 2026PSA 10£1208 Jun 2026PSA 10£1209 Jun 2026PSA 10£12010 Jun 2026PSA 10£12011 Jun 2026PSA 10£12012 Jun 2026PSA 10£12013 Jun 2026PSA 10£12014 Jun 2026PSA 10£12015 Jun 2026PSA 10£12016 Jun 2026PSA 10£12017 Jun 2026PSA 10£12018 Jun 2026PSA 10£12019 Jun 2026PSA 10£12020 Jun 2026PSA 10£12021 Jun 2026PSA 10£12022 Jun 2026PSA 10£12023 Jun 2026PSA 10£12124 Jun 2026PSA 10£12125 Jun 2026PSA 10£12126 Jun 2026PSA 10£12127 Jun 2026PSA 10£12128 Jun 2026PSA 10£12129 Jun 2026PSA 10£12130 Jun 2026PSA 10£1211 Jul 2026PSA 10£1212 Jul 2026PSA 10£1323 Jul 2026PSA 10£1324 Jul 2026PSA 10£1325 Jul 2026PSA 10£1326 Jul 2026PSA 10£1327 Jul 2026PSA 10£1328 Jul 2026PSA 10£1329 Jul 2026PSA 10£13210 Jul 2026PSA 10£13211 Jul 2026PSA 10£13212 Jul 2026PSA 10£13213 Jul 2026PSA 10£13214 Jul 2026PSA 10£13215 Jul 2026PSA 10£13216 Jul 2026PSA 10£13217 Jul 2026PSA 10£13218 Jul 2026PSA 10£13219 Jul 2026PSA 10£13220 Jul 2026PSA 10£13221 Jul 2026PSA 10£14922 Jul 2026PSA 10£14923 Jul 2026PSA 10£14924 Jul 2026PSA 10£14925 Jul 2026PSA 10£14926 Jul 2026PSA 10£14927 Jul 2026PSA 10£16728 Jul 2026PSA 10£16729 Jul 2026PSA 10£16730 Jul 2026PSA 10£16731 Jul 2026PSA 10£1671 Aug 2026PSA 10£1672 Aug 2026PSA 10£1673 Aug 2026PSA 10£1674 Aug 2026PSA 10£167PSA 9£31.51CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£2175 Aug 2026PSA 10£167PSA 9£31.51CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£2176 Aug 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£31.51CGC 10£101BGS 10£2197 Aug 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£31.51CGC 10£101BGS 10£2198 Aug 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£31.51CGC 10£101BGS 10£2199 Aug 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£31.51CGC 10£101BGS 10£21910 Aug 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£31.51CGC 10£101BGS 10£21911 Aug 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£31.51CGC 10£101BGS 10£21912 Aug 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£31.51CGC 10£101BGS 10£21913 Aug 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£31.51CGC 10£101BGS 10£21914 Aug 2026PSA 10£184PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£110BGS 10£24015 Aug 2026PSA 10£184PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£110BGS 10£24016 Aug 2026PSA 10£184PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£110BGS 10£24017 Aug 2026PSA 10£184PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£110BGS 10£24018 Aug 2026PSA 10£184PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£110BGS 10£24019 Aug 2026PSA 10£184PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£110BGS 10£24020 Aug 2026PSA 10£184PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£110BGS 10£24021 Aug 2026PSA 10£184PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£110BGS 10£24022 Aug 2026PSA 10£185PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£111BGS 10£24023 Aug 2026PSA 10£185PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£111BGS 10£24024 Aug 2026PSA 10£185PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£111BGS 10£24025 Aug 2026PSA 10£185PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£111BGS 10£24026 Aug 2026PSA 10£185PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£111BGS 10£24027 Aug 2026PSA 10£185PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£111BGS 10£24028 Aug 2026PSA 10£185PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£111BGS 10£24029 Aug 2026PSA 10£185PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£111BGS 10£24030 Aug 2026PSA 10£166PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£21631 Aug 2026PSA 10£166PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£2161 Sept 2026PSA 10£166PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£2162 Sept 2026PSA 10£166PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£2163 Sept 2026PSA 10£166PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£2164 Sept 2026PSA 10£166PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£2165 Sept 2026PSA 10£166PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£2166 Sept 2026PSA 10£166PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£2167 Sept 2026PSA 10£166PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£2168 Sept 2026PSA 10£166PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£2169 Sept 2026PSA 10£167PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£21710 Sept 2026PSA 10£167PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£21711 Sept 2026PSA 10£167PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£21712 Sept 2026PSA 10£167PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£21713 Sept 2026PSA 10£167PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£21714 Sept 2026PSA 10£167PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£21715 Sept 2026PSA 10£167PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£21716 Sept 2026PSA 10£167PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£21717 Sept 2026PSA 10£167PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£21718 Sept 2026PSA 10£167PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£21719 Sept 2026PSA 10£167PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£21720 Sept 2026PSA 10£167PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£21721 Sept 2026PSA 10£167PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£21722 Sept 2026PSA 10£166PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£21623 Sept 2026PSA 10£166PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£21624 Sept 2026PSA 10£166PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£21625 Sept 2026PSA 10£166PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£99.79BGS 10£21626 Sept 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£22027 Sept 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£22028 Sept 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£22029 Sept 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£22030 Sept 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£2201 Oct 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£2202 Oct 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£2203 Oct 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£2204 Oct 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£2205 Oct 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£2206 Oct 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£2207 Oct 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£2208 Oct 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£2209 Oct 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£22010 Oct 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£22011 Oct 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£22012 Oct 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£22013 Oct 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£22014 Oct 2026PSA 10£169PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£101BGS 10£22015 Oct 2026PSA 10£143PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£85.53BGS 10£18616 Oct 2026PSA 10£143PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£85.53BGS 10£18617 Oct 2026PSA 10£143PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£85.53BGS 10£18618 Oct 2026PSA 10£143PSA 9£41.27CGC 10£85.53BGS 10£18619 Oct 2026PSA 10£140PSA 9£45.17CGC 10£84.03BGS 10£18220 Oct 2026PSA 10£140PSA 9£45.17CGC 10£84.03BGS 10£18221 Oct 2026PSA 10£140PSA 9£45.17CGC 10£84.03BGS 10£18222 Oct 2026PSA 10£140PSA 9£45.17CGC 10£84.03BGS 10£18223 Oct 2026PSA 10£140PSA 9£45.17CGC 10£56.27BGS 10£18224 Oct 2026PSA 10£140PSA 9£45.17CGC 10£56.27BGS 10£18225 Oct 2026PSA 10£140PSA 9£45.17CGC 10£56.27BGS 10£18226 Oct 2026PSA 10£151PSA 9£46.47CGC 10£60.02BGS 10£197
£100£200
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Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
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How much new stock hits the UK market each day The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This charts how many appear for this card once the daily rollup has readings for it.
A direct count of listings we saw appear — not an estimate of every listing on eBay.
Confirmed sales per day
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How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. This charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day, from the first confirmed sale for this card.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
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Live UK listings for this card The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This fills as soon as one appears for this card, showing asking prices cheapest first.
Where these numbers come from
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawkOur own market price, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.