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Prices by grade
Today's figures for every tier. Raw is the HoloHawk price above; graded tiers are PriceCharting, converted to GBP.
Raw · ungraded£24.31
PSA 10£179
PSA 9£125
CGC 10£35.26
BGS 10£233
At a glance
Days tracked189
IllustratorNaoyo Kimura
Pokédex387
Price history
116 readings · 189d
£24.31HoloHawk£8.900.0%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
13 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.9014 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.9015 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.0716 Oct 2026HoloHawk£24.31PriceCharting£8.0717 Oct 2026HoloHawk£24.31PriceCharting£8.0718 Oct 2026HoloHawk£24.31PriceCharting£8.0719 Oct 2026HoloHawk£24.31PriceCharting£8.0720 Oct 2026HoloHawk£24.31PriceCharting£8.90
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13 Oct13 Oct15 Oct15 Oct20 Oct20 Oct
£24.31HoloHawk£8.90-8.4%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
20 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.7221 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.7222 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.5123 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.5124 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.5125 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.5126 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.5127 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.5128 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.5129 Sept 2026PriceCharting£8.9030 Sept 2026PriceCharting£8.901 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.902 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.903 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.904 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.905 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.906 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.907 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.908 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.909 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.9010 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.9011 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.9012 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.9013 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.9014 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.9015 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.0716 Oct 2026HoloHawk£24.31PriceCharting£8.0717 Oct 2026HoloHawk£24.31PriceCharting£8.0718 Oct 2026HoloHawk£24.31PriceCharting£8.0719 Oct 2026HoloHawk£24.31PriceCharting£8.0720 Oct 2026HoloHawk£24.31PriceCharting£8.90
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20 Sept22 Sept29 Sept29 Sept15 Oct20 Oct
£24.31HoloHawk£8.90-7.9%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£9.6615 Apr 2026PriceCharting£9.6616 Apr 2026PriceCharting£9.6617 Apr 2026PriceCharting£9.6618 Apr 2026PriceCharting£9.6619 Apr 2026PriceCharting£9.6620 Apr 2026PriceCharting£9.6621 Apr 2026PriceCharting£9.6622 Apr 2026PriceCharting£10.5323 Apr 2026PriceCharting£10.5324 Apr 2026PriceCharting£10.5325 Apr 2026PriceCharting£10.5326 Apr 2026PriceCharting£10.5327 Apr 2026PriceCharting£10.5328 Apr 2026PriceCharting£10.5329 Apr 2026PriceCharting£10.5330 Apr 2026PriceCharting£10.531 May 2026PriceCharting£10.532 May 2026PriceCharting£10.503 May 2026PriceCharting£10.504 May 2026PriceCharting£10.505 May 2026PriceCharting£10.506 May 2026PriceCharting£10.507 May 2026PriceCharting£10.508 May 2026PriceCharting£10.509 May 2026PriceCharting£10.5010 May 2026PriceCharting£10.5011 May 2026PriceCharting£10.5012 May 2026PriceCharting£6.0013 May 2026PriceCharting£6.0014 May 2026PriceCharting£6.0015 May 2026PriceCharting£6.0016 May 2026PriceCharting£6.0017 May 2026PriceCharting£6.0018 May 2026PriceCharting£6.0019 May 2026PriceCharting£6.0020 May 2026PriceCharting£6.0021 May 2026PriceCharting£6.0022 May 2026PriceCharting£6.0023 May 2026PriceCharting£6.0024 May 2026PriceCharting£6.0025 May 2026PriceCharting£6.0026 May 2026PriceCharting£6.0027 May 2026PriceCharting£6.0028 May 2026PriceCharting£6.0029 May 2026PriceCharting£6.0030 May 2026PriceCharting£7.2631 May 2026PriceCharting£7.261 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.262 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.263 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.264 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.265 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.746 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.747 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.748 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.749 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.7410 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.7411 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.7412 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.7413 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.7414 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.7415 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.7416 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.7417 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.7418 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.7419 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.7420 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.7421 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.7422 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.3823 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.3824 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.3825 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.3826 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.3827 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.3828 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.3829 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.3830 Jun 2026PriceCharting£7.381 Jul 2026PriceCharting£7.382 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.603 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.604 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.605 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.606 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.607 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.608 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.609 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6010 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6011 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6012 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6013 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6014 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6015 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6016 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6017 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6018 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6019 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6020 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6021 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6022 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6023 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6024 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6625 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6626 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6627 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6628 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6629 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6630 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.6631 Jul 2026PriceCharting£6.661 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.662 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.663 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.724 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.725 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.726 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.727 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.728 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.729 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.7210 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.7211 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.7212 Aug 2026PriceCharting£6.7213 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.6214 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.6215 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.6216 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.6217 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.6218 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.6219 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.6220 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.6221 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.6222 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.6223 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.0024 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.0025 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.0026 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.0027 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.0028 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.0029 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.0030 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.0031 Aug 2026PriceCharting£9.001 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.002 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.003 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.004 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.005 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.006 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.007 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.008 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.009 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.7210 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.7211 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.7212 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.7213 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.7214 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.7215 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.7216 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.7217 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.7218 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.7219 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.7220 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.7221 Sept 2026PriceCharting£9.7222 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.5123 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.5124 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.5125 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.5126 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.5127 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.5128 Sept 2026PriceCharting£6.5129 Sept 2026PriceCharting£8.9030 Sept 2026PriceCharting£8.901 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.902 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.903 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.904 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.905 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.906 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.907 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.908 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.909 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.9010 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.9011 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.9012 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.9013 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.9014 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.9015 Oct 2026PriceCharting£8.0716 Oct 2026HoloHawk£24.31PriceCharting£8.0717 Oct 2026HoloHawk£24.31PriceCharting£8.0718 Oct 2026HoloHawk£24.31PriceCharting£8.0719 Oct 2026HoloHawk£24.31PriceCharting£8.0720 Oct 2026HoloHawk£24.31PriceCharting£8.90
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Three independent readings on one scale. A reading is recorded only when a price changes, so a flat stretch means it held. Hover or tap any day. PulseTCG has no readings for this card yet.
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£18115 Apr 2026PSA 10£18116 Apr 2026PSA 10£18117 Apr 2026PSA 10£18118 Apr 2026PSA 10£18119 Apr 2026PSA 10£18120 Apr 2026PSA 10£18121 Apr 2026PSA 10£18122 Apr 2026PSA 10£20023 Apr 2026PSA 10£20024 Apr 2026PSA 10£20025 Apr 2026PSA 10£20026 Apr 2026PSA 10£20027 Apr 2026PSA 10£20028 Apr 2026PSA 10£20029 Apr 2026PSA 10£20030 Apr 2026PSA 10£2001 May 2026PSA 10£2002 May 2026PSA 10£2163 May 2026PSA 10£2164 May 2026PSA 10£2165 May 2026PSA 10£2166 May 2026PSA 10£2167 May 2026PSA 10£2168 May 2026PSA 10£2169 May 2026PSA 10£21610 May 2026PSA 10£21611 May 2026PSA 10£21612 May 2026PSA 10£21713 May 2026PSA 10£21714 May 2026PSA 10£21715 May 2026PSA 10£21716 May 2026PSA 10£21717 May 2026PSA 10£21718 May 2026PSA 10£21719 May 2026PSA 10£13420 May 2026PSA 10£13421 May 2026PSA 10£13422 May 2026PSA 10£13423 May 2026PSA 10£13424 May 2026PSA 10£13425 May 2026PSA 10£13426 May 2026PSA 10£13427 May 2026PSA 10£13428 May 2026PSA 10£13429 May 2026PSA 10£13430 May 2026PSA 10£15731 May 2026PSA 10£1571 Jun 2026PSA 10£1572 Jun 2026PSA 10£1573 Jun 2026PSA 10£1574 Jun 2026PSA 10£1575 Jun 2026PSA 10£1576 Jun 2026PSA 10£1577 Jun 2026PSA 10£1578 Jun 2026PSA 10£1579 Jun 2026PSA 10£15710 Jun 2026PSA 10£15711 Jun 2026PSA 10£15712 Jun 2026PSA 10£16713 Jun 2026PSA 10£16714 Jun 2026PSA 10£16715 Jun 2026PSA 10£16716 Jun 2026PSA 10£16717 Jun 2026PSA 10£16718 Jun 2026PSA 10£16719 Jun 2026PSA 10£16720 Jun 2026PSA 10£16721 Jun 2026PSA 10£16722 Jun 2026PSA 10£16723 Jun 2026PSA 10£16724 Jun 2026PSA 10£16725 Jun 2026PSA 10£16726 Jun 2026PSA 10£16727 Jun 2026PSA 10£16728 Jun 2026PSA 10£16729 Jun 2026PSA 10£16730 Jun 2026PSA 10£1671 Jul 2026PSA 10£1672 Jul 2026PSA 10£1613 Jul 2026PSA 10£1614 Jul 2026PSA 10£1615 Jul 2026PSA 10£1616 Jul 2026PSA 10£1617 Jul 2026PSA 10£1468 Jul 2026PSA 10£1469 Jul 2026PSA 10£14610 Jul 2026PSA 10£14611 Jul 2026PSA 10£14612 Jul 2026PSA 10£14613 Jul 2026PSA 10£14614 Jul 2026PSA 10£14715 Jul 2026PSA 10£14716 Jul 2026PSA 10£14717 Jul 2026PSA 10£14718 Jul 2026PSA 10£14719 Jul 2026PSA 10£14720 Jul 2026PSA 10£14721 Jul 2026PSA 10£14722 Jul 2026PSA 10£14723 Jul 2026PSA 10£14724 Jul 2026PSA 10£14725 Jul 2026PSA 10£14726 Jul 2026PSA 10£14727 Jul 2026PSA 10£14728 Jul 2026PSA 10£14729 Jul 2026PSA 10£14730 Jul 2026PSA 10£14731 Jul 2026PSA 10£1471 Aug 2026PSA 10£1472 Aug 2026PSA 10£1473 Aug 2026PSA 10£1494 Aug 2026PSA 10£149PSA 9£14.92CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£1935 Aug 2026PSA 10£149PSA 9£14.92CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£1936 Aug 2026PSA 10£149PSA 9£14.92CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£1937 Aug 2026PSA 10£149PSA 9£14.92CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£1938 Aug 2026PSA 10£149PSA 9£14.92CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£1939 Aug 2026PSA 10£149PSA 9£14.92CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£19310 Aug 2026PSA 10£149PSA 9£14.92CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£19311 Aug 2026PSA 10£149PSA 9£14.92CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£19312 Aug 2026PSA 10£149PSA 9£14.92CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£19313 Aug 2026PSA 10£150PSA 9£15.22CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£19514 Aug 2026PSA 10£150PSA 9£15.22CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£19515 Aug 2026PSA 10£150PSA 9£15.22CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£19516 Aug 2026PSA 10£150PSA 9£15.22CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£19517 Aug 2026PSA 10£150PSA 9£15.22CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£19518 Aug 2026PSA 10£150PSA 9£15.22CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£19519 Aug 2026PSA 10£150PSA 9£15.22CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£19520 Aug 2026PSA 10£150PSA 9£15.22CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£19521 Aug 2026PSA 10£150PSA 9£15.22CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£19522 Aug 2026PSA 10£150PSA 9£15.22CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£19523 Aug 2026PSA 10£206PSA 9£15.51CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£26824 Aug 2026PSA 10£206PSA 9£15.51CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£26825 Aug 2026PSA 10£206PSA 9£15.51CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£26826 Aug 2026PSA 10£206PSA 9£15.51CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£26827 Aug 2026PSA 10£206PSA 9£15.51CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£26828 Aug 2026PSA 10£206PSA 9£15.51CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£26829 Aug 2026PSA 10£206PSA 9£15.51CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£26830 Aug 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£25331 Aug 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£2531 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£2532 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£2533 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£2534 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£2535 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£2536 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£2537 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£2538 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£2539 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£25410 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£25411 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£25412 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£25413 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£25414 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£25415 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£25416 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£25417 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£25418 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£25419 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£25420 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£25421 Sept 2026PSA 10£195PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£25422 Sept 2026PSA 10£209PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£27223 Sept 2026PSA 10£209PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£27224 Sept 2026PSA 10£209PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£27225 Sept 2026PSA 10£209PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£27226 Sept 2026PSA 10£209PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£27227 Sept 2026PSA 10£209PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£27228 Sept 2026PSA 10£209PSA 9£37.52CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£27229 Sept 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£31730 Sept 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£3171 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£3172 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£3173 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£3174 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£3175 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£3176 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£3177 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£3178 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£3179 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£31710 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£31711 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£31712 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£31713 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£31714 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£31715 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£31716 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£31717 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£31718 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£31719 Oct 2026PSA 10£244PSA 9£203CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£31720 Oct 2026PSA 10£179PSA 9£125CGC 10£35.26BGS 10£233
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Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
0 today
How many new UK listings appear for this card each day. Rising supply against a
falling price is the clearest sell signal there is. This counts what we saw, so it is a sample of
the market rather than a total.
16 Oct 2026New listings/day117 Oct 2026New listings/day018 Oct 2026New listings/day019 Oct 2026New listings/day020 Oct 2026New listings/day021 Oct 2026New listings/day022 Oct 2026New listings/day023 Oct 2026New listings/day024 Oct 2026New listings/day025 Oct 2026New listings/day026 Oct 2026New listings/day0
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New UK listings we saw appear each day. A direct count of what the scanner observed, not an estimate of everything on eBay. Source: HoloHawk, observed directly on eBay UK.
Confirmed sales per day
Building
How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. This charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day, from the first confirmed sale for this card.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
1 live
Fixed-price listings we are currently tracking, cheapest first. Asking prices, not sales,
and a sample of what is listed rather than everything on eBay. Each row opens the listing on eBay — HoloHawk earns a commission on purchases made through it, and it never changes the price you pay.
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawkOur own market price, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.