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Prices by grade
PSA 10 = 12.5× raw
Today's figures for every tier.
Raw · ungraded£29.29
PSA 10£367
PSA 9£134
CGC 10£151
BGS 10£477
A PSA 10 sells for 12.5× the raw card — a gap of £338. Grading fees and the risk of a 9 come out of that.
At a glance
30-day high£29.83
30-day low£28.08
Tracked high£29.83
Days tracked197
IllustratorKimiya Masago
Pokédex212
Price history
123 readings · 197d
HoloHawk awaiting data£29.29+3.2%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
21 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.3922 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.3923 Oct 2026PriceCharting£29.8324 Oct 2026PriceCharting£29.8325 Oct 2026PriceCharting£29.8326 Oct 2026PriceCharting£29.8327 Oct 2026PriceCharting£29.8328 Oct 2026PriceCharting£29.29
£28.50£29.00£29.50
21 Oct21 Oct23 Oct23 Oct28 Oct28 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£29.29+6.1%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
28 Sept 2026PriceCharting£28.0829 Sept 2026PriceCharting£28.0830 Sept 2026PriceCharting£28.081 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.082 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.083 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.084 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.085 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.086 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.087 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.088 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.089 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.0810 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.0811 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.0812 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.0813 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.0814 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.0815 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.4616 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.4617 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.4618 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.4619 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.3920 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.3921 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.3922 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.3923 Oct 2026PriceCharting£29.8324 Oct 2026PriceCharting£29.8325 Oct 2026PriceCharting£29.8326 Oct 2026PriceCharting£29.8327 Oct 2026PriceCharting£29.8328 Oct 2026PriceCharting£29.29
£28.00£29.00
28 Sept28 Sept15 Oct19 Oct23 Oct28 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£29.29+39.0%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£21.0715 Apr 2026PriceCharting£21.0716 Apr 2026PriceCharting£21.0717 Apr 2026PriceCharting£21.0718 Apr 2026PriceCharting£21.0719 Apr 2026PriceCharting£23.8620 Apr 2026PriceCharting£23.8621 Apr 2026PriceCharting£23.8622 Apr 2026PriceCharting£23.8623 Apr 2026PriceCharting£23.8624 Apr 2026PriceCharting£23.8625 Apr 2026PriceCharting£23.8626 Apr 2026PriceCharting£23.8627 Apr 2026PriceCharting£23.8628 Apr 2026PriceCharting£23.8629 Apr 2026PriceCharting£23.8630 Apr 2026PriceCharting£23.861 May 2026PriceCharting£23.862 May 2026PriceCharting£23.863 May 2026PriceCharting£23.864 May 2026PriceCharting£25.145 May 2026PriceCharting£25.146 May 2026PriceCharting£25.147 May 2026PriceCharting£25.148 May 2026PriceCharting£25.149 May 2026PriceCharting£25.1410 May 2026PriceCharting£25.3611 May 2026PriceCharting£25.3612 May 2026PriceCharting£25.3613 May 2026PriceCharting£25.3614 May 2026PriceCharting£25.3615 May 2026PriceCharting£25.3616 May 2026PriceCharting£25.4717 May 2026PriceCharting£25.4718 May 2026PriceCharting£25.4719 May 2026PriceCharting£25.4720 May 2026PriceCharting£25.4721 May 2026PriceCharting£25.4722 May 2026PriceCharting£25.4723 May 2026PriceCharting£25.4724 May 2026PriceCharting£25.4725 May 2026PriceCharting£25.4726 May 2026PriceCharting£25.4727 May 2026PriceCharting£26.3428 May 2026PriceCharting£26.3429 May 2026PriceCharting£26.3430 May 2026PriceCharting£26.3431 May 2026PriceCharting£26.341 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.342 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.343 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.344 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.345 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.346 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.347 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.348 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.209 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.2010 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.0511 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.0512 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.0513 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.0514 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.3415 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.3416 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.3417 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.3418 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.3419 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.3420 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.3421 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.3422 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.3423 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.3424 Jun 2026PriceCharting£26.3425 Jun 2026PriceCharting£22.7626 Jun 2026PriceCharting£22.7627 Jun 2026PriceCharting£22.7628 Jun 2026PriceCharting£22.7629 Jun 2026PriceCharting£22.7630 Jun 2026PriceCharting£21.861 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.862 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.863 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.864 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.865 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.866 Jul 2026PriceCharting£21.867 Jul 2026PriceCharting£23.658 Jul 2026PriceCharting£23.659 Jul 2026PriceCharting£23.6510 Jul 2026PriceCharting£23.6511 Jul 2026PriceCharting£23.8912 Jul 2026PriceCharting£23.8913 Jul 2026PriceCharting£23.8914 Jul 2026PriceCharting£23.8915 Jul 2026PriceCharting£23.8916 Jul 2026PriceCharting£23.8917 Jul 2026PriceCharting£23.7718 Jul 2026PriceCharting£23.7719 Jul 2026PriceCharting£23.7720 Jul 2026PriceCharting£23.7721 Jul 2026PriceCharting£23.7722 Jul 2026PriceCharting£22.7623 Jul 2026PriceCharting£22.7624 Jul 2026PriceCharting£22.7625 Jul 2026PriceCharting£22.7626 Jul 2026PriceCharting£22.7627 Jul 2026PriceCharting£22.7628 Jul 2026PriceCharting£22.7629 Jul 2026PriceCharting£22.7630 Jul 2026PriceCharting£24.8131 Jul 2026PriceCharting£24.811 Aug 2026PriceCharting£24.812 Aug 2026PriceCharting£24.813 Aug 2026PriceCharting£24.814 Aug 2026PriceCharting£24.815 Aug 2026PriceCharting£24.946 Aug 2026PriceCharting£24.947 Aug 2026PriceCharting£24.948 Aug 2026PriceCharting£24.949 Aug 2026PriceCharting£24.9410 Aug 2026PriceCharting£24.9411 Aug 2026PriceCharting£24.9412 Aug 2026PriceCharting£25.0013 Aug 2026PriceCharting£25.0014 Aug 2026PriceCharting£25.0015 Aug 2026PriceCharting£25.0016 Aug 2026PriceCharting£25.0017 Aug 2026PriceCharting£25.0018 Aug 2026PriceCharting£25.0019 Aug 2026PriceCharting£25.0020 Aug 2026PriceCharting£25.0021 Aug 2026PriceCharting£25.0022 Aug 2026PriceCharting£26.3423 Aug 2026PriceCharting£26.3424 Aug 2026PriceCharting£26.3425 Aug 2026PriceCharting£26.3426 Aug 2026PriceCharting£26.3427 Aug 2026PriceCharting£26.3428 Aug 2026PriceCharting£26.3429 Aug 2026PriceCharting£26.3430 Aug 2026PriceCharting£26.3431 Aug 2026PriceCharting£26.341 Sept 2026PriceCharting£26.342 Sept 2026PriceCharting£26.343 Sept 2026PriceCharting£26.344 Sept 2026PriceCharting£26.345 Sept 2026PriceCharting£26.346 Sept 2026PriceCharting£26.347 Sept 2026PriceCharting£26.348 Sept 2026PriceCharting£26.349 Sept 2026PriceCharting£26.3410 Sept 2026PriceCharting£26.3411 Sept 2026PriceCharting£26.3412 Sept 2026PriceCharting£26.3413 Sept 2026PriceCharting£26.3414 Sept 2026PriceCharting£26.3415 Sept 2026PriceCharting£26.3416 Sept 2026PriceCharting£27.5417 Sept 2026PriceCharting£27.5418 Sept 2026PriceCharting£27.7919 Sept 2026PriceCharting£27.7920 Sept 2026PriceCharting£27.7921 Sept 2026PriceCharting£27.7922 Sept 2026PriceCharting£27.7923 Sept 2026PriceCharting£27.6024 Sept 2026PriceCharting£27.6025 Sept 2026PriceCharting£27.6026 Sept 2026PriceCharting£27.6027 Sept 2026PriceCharting£27.6028 Sept 2026PriceCharting£28.0829 Sept 2026PriceCharting£28.0830 Sept 2026PriceCharting£28.081 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.082 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.083 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.084 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.085 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.086 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.087 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.088 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.089 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.0810 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.0811 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.0812 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.0813 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.0814 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.0815 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.4616 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.4617 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.4618 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.4619 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.3920 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.3921 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.3922 Oct 2026PriceCharting£28.3923 Oct 2026PriceCharting£29.8324 Oct 2026PriceCharting£29.8325 Oct 2026PriceCharting£29.8326 Oct 2026PriceCharting£29.8327 Oct 2026PriceCharting£29.8328 Oct 2026PriceCharting£29.29
£22.50£25.00£27.50
14 Apr9 May7 Jun1 Jul26 Jul28 Oct
Three independent readings on one scale. A reading is recorded only when a price changes, so a flat stretch means it held. Hover or tap any day. HoloHawk and PulseTCG have no readings for this card yet.
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£10715 Apr 2026PSA 10£10716 Apr 2026PSA 10£10717 Apr 2026PSA 10£10718 Apr 2026PSA 10£10719 Apr 2026PSA 10£10720 Apr 2026PSA 10£10721 Apr 2026PSA 10£10722 Apr 2026PSA 10£10723 Apr 2026PSA 10£10724 Apr 2026PSA 10£10725 Apr 2026PSA 10£10726 Apr 2026PSA 10£10727 Apr 2026PSA 10£10728 Apr 2026PSA 10£10729 Apr 2026PSA 10£10730 Apr 2026PSA 10£1071 May 2026PSA 10£1072 May 2026PSA 10£1073 May 2026PSA 10£1074 May 2026PSA 10£1075 May 2026PSA 10£1076 May 2026PSA 10£1077 May 2026PSA 10£1078 May 2026PSA 10£1079 May 2026PSA 10£10710 May 2026PSA 10£10711 May 2026PSA 10£10712 May 2026PSA 10£10713 May 2026PSA 10£10714 May 2026PSA 10£10715 May 2026PSA 10£10716 May 2026PSA 10£10717 May 2026PSA 10£10718 May 2026PSA 10£10719 May 2026PSA 10£10720 May 2026PSA 10£10721 May 2026PSA 10£10722 May 2026PSA 10£10723 May 2026PSA 10£10724 May 2026PSA 10£10725 May 2026PSA 10£10726 May 2026PSA 10£10727 May 2026PSA 10£10728 May 2026PSA 10£10729 May 2026PSA 10£10730 May 2026PSA 10£10731 May 2026PSA 10£1071 Jun 2026PSA 10£1072 Jun 2026PSA 10£1073 Jun 2026PSA 10£1074 Jun 2026PSA 10£1075 Jun 2026PSA 10£1076 Jun 2026PSA 10£1077 Jun 2026PSA 10£1078 Jun 2026PSA 10£1079 Jun 2026PSA 10£10710 Jun 2026PSA 10£10711 Jun 2026PSA 10£10712 Jun 2026PSA 10£10713 Jun 2026PSA 10£10714 Jun 2026PSA 10£10715 Jun 2026PSA 10£10716 Jun 2026PSA 10£10717 Jun 2026PSA 10£10718 Jun 2026PSA 10£10719 Jun 2026PSA 10£10720 Jun 2026PSA 10£10721 Jun 2026PSA 10£10722 Jun 2026PSA 10£10723 Jun 2026PSA 10£10724 Jun 2026PSA 10£10725 Jun 2026PSA 10£10726 Jun 2026PSA 10£10727 Jun 2026PSA 10£10728 Jun 2026PSA 10£10729 Jun 2026PSA 10£10730 Jun 2026PSA 10£1071 Jul 2026PSA 10£1072 Jul 2026PSA 10£1073 Jul 2026PSA 10£1074 Jul 2026PSA 10£1075 Jul 2026PSA 10£1076 Jul 2026PSA 10£1077 Jul 2026PSA 10£1078 Jul 2026PSA 10£1079 Jul 2026PSA 10£10710 Jul 2026PSA 10£10711 Jul 2026PSA 10£10712 Jul 2026PSA 10£10713 Jul 2026PSA 10£10714 Jul 2026PSA 10£10715 Jul 2026PSA 10£10716 Jul 2026PSA 10£10717 Jul 2026PSA 10£25918 Jul 2026PSA 10£25919 Jul 2026PSA 10£25920 Jul 2026PSA 10£25921 Jul 2026PSA 10£25922 Jul 2026PSA 10£36723 Jul 2026PSA 10£36724 Jul 2026PSA 10£36725 Jul 2026PSA 10£36726 Jul 2026PSA 10£36727 Jul 2026PSA 10£36728 Jul 2026PSA 10£36729 Jul 2026PSA 10£36730 Jul 2026PSA 10£36731 Jul 2026PSA 10£3671 Aug 2026PSA 10£3672 Aug 2026PSA 10£3673 Aug 2026PSA 10£3674 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£104CGC 10£151BGS 10£4775 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£104CGC 10£151BGS 10£4776 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£104CGC 10£151BGS 10£4777 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£104CGC 10£151BGS 10£4778 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£104CGC 10£151BGS 10£4779 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£104CGC 10£151BGS 10£47710 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£104CGC 10£151BGS 10£47711 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£104CGC 10£151BGS 10£47712 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£101CGC 10£151BGS 10£47713 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£101CGC 10£151BGS 10£47714 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£101CGC 10£151BGS 10£47715 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£98.87CGC 10£151BGS 10£47716 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£98.87CGC 10£151BGS 10£47717 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£98.87CGC 10£151BGS 10£47718 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£98.87CGC 10£151BGS 10£47719 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£98.87CGC 10£151BGS 10£47720 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£98.87CGC 10£151BGS 10£47721 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£98.87CGC 10£151BGS 10£47722 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.94CGC 10£151BGS 10£47723 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.94CGC 10£151BGS 10£47724 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.94CGC 10£151BGS 10£47725 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.47CGC 10£151BGS 10£47726 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.47CGC 10£151BGS 10£47727 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.47CGC 10£151BGS 10£47728 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.47CGC 10£151BGS 10£47729 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.47CGC 10£151BGS 10£47730 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.47CGC 10£151BGS 10£47731 Aug 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.25CGC 10£151BGS 10£4771 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.25CGC 10£151BGS 10£4772 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.25CGC 10£151BGS 10£4773 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.25CGC 10£151BGS 10£4774 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.25CGC 10£151BGS 10£4775 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.25CGC 10£151BGS 10£4776 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.02CGC 10£151BGS 10£4777 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.02CGC 10£151BGS 10£4778 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.02CGC 10£151BGS 10£4779 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.02CGC 10£151BGS 10£47710 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.02CGC 10£151BGS 10£47711 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.02CGC 10£151BGS 10£47712 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.02CGC 10£151BGS 10£47713 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.02CGC 10£151BGS 10£47714 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.02CGC 10£151BGS 10£47715 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£97.02CGC 10£151BGS 10£47716 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47717 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47718 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47719 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47720 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47721 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47722 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47723 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47724 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47725 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47726 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47727 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47728 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47729 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47730 Sept 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£4771 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£4772 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£4773 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£4774 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£4775 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£4776 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£4777 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£4778 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£4779 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47710 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47711 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47712 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47713 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47714 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47715 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47716 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47717 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47718 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47719 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47720 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47721 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47722 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£95.22CGC 10£151BGS 10£47723 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£120CGC 10£151BGS 10£47724 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£120CGC 10£151BGS 10£47725 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£120CGC 10£151BGS 10£47726 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£120CGC 10£151BGS 10£47727 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£120CGC 10£151BGS 10£47728 Oct 2026PSA 10£367PSA 9£134CGC 10£151BGS 10£477
£100£200£300£400
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Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
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How much new stock hits the UK market each day The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This charts how many appear for this card once the daily rollup has readings for it.
A direct count of listings we saw appear — not an estimate of every listing on eBay.
Confirmed sales per day
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How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. This charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day, from the first confirmed sale for this card.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
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Live UK listings for this card The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This fills as soon as one appears for this card, showing asking prices cheapest first.
Where these numbers come from
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawkOur own market price, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.