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Prices by grade
Today's figures for every tier.
Raw · ungraded£0.29
PSA 10£27.03
CGC 10£10.51
BGS 10£35.29
At a glance
30-day high£0.30
30-day low£0.28
Tracked high£0.51
Days tracked199
IllustratorKouki Saitou
Pokédex994
Price history
120 readings · 199d
HoloHawk awaiting data£0.29+3.6%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
23 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.2824 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.2825 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.2826 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3027 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3028 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3029 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3030 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.29
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23 Oct23 Oct23 Oct26 Oct26 Oct30 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£0.29-3.3%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
30 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.301 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.302 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.303 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.304 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.305 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.306 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.307 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.308 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.309 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3010 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3011 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3012 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3013 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3014 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3015 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3016 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3017 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3018 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3019 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.2820 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.2821 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.2822 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.2823 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.2824 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.2825 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.2826 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3027 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3028 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3029 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3030 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.29
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30 Sept15 Oct19 Oct23 Oct26 Oct30 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£0.29+20.8%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.2415 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.2416 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.2317 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.2318 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.2319 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.2320 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.2321 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.2322 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.2623 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.2624 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.2625 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.2626 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.2627 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.2628 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.2929 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.2930 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.291 May 2026PriceCharting£0.292 May 2026PriceCharting£0.293 May 2026PriceCharting£0.294 May 2026PriceCharting£0.325 May 2026PriceCharting£0.326 May 2026PriceCharting£0.327 May 2026PriceCharting£0.328 May 2026PriceCharting£0.329 May 2026PriceCharting£0.3210 May 2026PriceCharting£0.3211 May 2026PriceCharting£0.5112 May 2026PriceCharting£0.5113 May 2026PriceCharting£0.5114 May 2026PriceCharting£0.5115 May 2026PriceCharting£0.5116 May 2026PriceCharting£0.2917 May 2026PriceCharting£0.2918 May 2026PriceCharting£0.2919 May 2026PriceCharting£0.2920 May 2026PriceCharting£0.2921 May 2026PriceCharting£0.3222 May 2026PriceCharting£0.3223 May 2026PriceCharting£0.3224 May 2026PriceCharting£0.3225 May 2026PriceCharting£0.3226 May 2026PriceCharting£0.3227 May 2026PriceCharting£0.2628 May 2026PriceCharting£0.2629 May 2026PriceCharting£0.2630 May 2026PriceCharting£0.2631 May 2026PriceCharting£0.221 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.222 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.223 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.224 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.225 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.226 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.227 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.228 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.229 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2210 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2211 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2212 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2213 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2214 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2215 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2216 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2217 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2218 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2219 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2220 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2221 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2222 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2223 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2224 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2225 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2226 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2227 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2228 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2429 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.2430 Jun 2026PriceCharting£0.241 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.242 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.243 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.244 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.295 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.296 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.297 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.298 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.299 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2910 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2911 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2912 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2913 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2914 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2915 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2916 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2917 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2118 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2119 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2120 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2121 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2122 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2123 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2124 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2525 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2526 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2527 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2528 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.2529 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.3030 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.3031 Jul 2026PriceCharting£0.301 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.302 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.303 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.304 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.305 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.266 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.267 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.268 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.269 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.3010 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.3011 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.3012 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.3013 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.3014 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.3015 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.3016 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.3017 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.3018 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.3019 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.3020 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.3021 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.2922 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.2923 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.2924 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.2925 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.2926 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.2927 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.2928 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.2929 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.2930 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.2931 Aug 2026PriceCharting£0.291 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.292 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.293 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.264 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.265 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.266 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.267 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.268 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.269 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2610 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2611 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2612 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2613 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2614 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2615 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2616 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2617 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2618 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2619 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2620 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2621 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2622 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2623 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2624 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2625 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2626 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2627 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.2628 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.3029 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.3030 Sept 2026PriceCharting£0.301 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.302 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.303 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.304 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.305 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.306 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.307 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.308 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.309 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3010 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3011 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3012 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3013 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3014 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3015 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3016 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3017 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3018 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3019 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.2820 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.2821 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.2822 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.2823 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.2824 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.2825 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.2826 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3027 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3028 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3029 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.3030 Oct 2026PriceCharting£0.29
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Three independent readings on one scale. A reading is recorded only when a price changes, so a flat stretch means it held. Hover or tap any day. HoloHawk and PulseTCG have no readings for this card yet.
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£27.0315 Apr 2026PSA 10£27.0316 Apr 2026PSA 10£27.0317 Apr 2026PSA 10£27.0318 Apr 2026PSA 10£27.0319 Apr 2026PSA 10£27.0320 Apr 2026PSA 10£27.0321 Apr 2026PSA 10£27.0322 Apr 2026PSA 10£27.0323 Apr 2026PSA 10£27.0324 Apr 2026PSA 10£27.0325 Apr 2026PSA 10£27.0326 Apr 2026PSA 10£27.0327 Apr 2026PSA 10£27.0328 Apr 2026PSA 10£27.0329 Apr 2026PSA 10£27.0330 Apr 2026PSA 10£27.031 May 2026PSA 10£27.032 May 2026PSA 10£27.033 May 2026PSA 10£27.034 May 2026PSA 10£27.035 May 2026PSA 10£27.036 May 2026PSA 10£27.037 May 2026PSA 10£27.038 May 2026PSA 10£27.039 May 2026PSA 10£27.0310 May 2026PSA 10£27.0311 May 2026PSA 10£27.0312 May 2026PSA 10£27.0313 May 2026PSA 10£27.0314 May 2026PSA 10£27.0315 May 2026PSA 10£27.0316 May 2026PSA 10£27.0317 May 2026PSA 10£27.0318 May 2026PSA 10£27.0319 May 2026PSA 10£27.0320 May 2026PSA 10£27.0321 May 2026PSA 10£27.0322 May 2026PSA 10£27.0323 May 2026PSA 10£27.0324 May 2026PSA 10£27.0325 May 2026PSA 10£27.0326 May 2026PSA 10£27.0327 May 2026PSA 10£27.0328 May 2026PSA 10£27.0329 May 2026PSA 10£27.0330 May 2026PSA 10£27.0331 May 2026PSA 10£27.031 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.032 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.033 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.034 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.035 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.036 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.037 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.038 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.039 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0310 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0311 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0312 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0313 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0314 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0315 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0316 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0317 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0318 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0319 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0320 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0321 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0322 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0323 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0324 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0325 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0326 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0327 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0328 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0329 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.0330 Jun 2026PSA 10£27.031 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.032 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.033 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.034 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.035 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.036 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.037 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.038 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.039 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0310 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0311 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0312 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0313 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0314 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0315 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0316 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0317 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0318 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0319 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0320 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0321 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0322 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0323 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0324 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0325 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0326 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0327 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0328 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0329 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0330 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.0331 Jul 2026PSA 10£27.031 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.032 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.033 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.034 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.295 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.296 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.297 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.298 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.299 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2910 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2911 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2912 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2913 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2914 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2915 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2916 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2917 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2918 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2919 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2920 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2921 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2922 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2923 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2924 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2925 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2926 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2927 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2928 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2929 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2930 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2931 Aug 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.291 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.292 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.293 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.294 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.295 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.296 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.297 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.298 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.299 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2910 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2911 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2912 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2913 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2914 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2915 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2916 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2917 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2918 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2919 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2920 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2921 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2922 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2923 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2924 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2925 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2926 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2927 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2928 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2929 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2930 Sept 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.291 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.292 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.293 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.294 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.295 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.296 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.297 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.298 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.299 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2910 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2911 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2912 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2913 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2914 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2915 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2916 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2917 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2918 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2919 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2920 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2921 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2922 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£16.52BGS 10£35.2923 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£10.51BGS 10£35.2924 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£10.51BGS 10£35.2925 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£10.51BGS 10£35.2926 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£10.51BGS 10£35.2927 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£10.51BGS 10£35.2928 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£10.51BGS 10£35.2929 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£10.51BGS 10£35.2930 Oct 2026PSA 10£27.03CGC 10£10.51BGS 10£35.29
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Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
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How much new stock hits the UK market each day The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This charts how many appear for this card once the daily rollup has readings for it.
A direct count of listings we saw appear — not an estimate of every listing on eBay.
Confirmed sales per day
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How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. This charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day, from the first confirmed sale for this card.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
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Live UK listings for this card The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This fills as soon as one appears for this card, showing asking prices cheapest first.
Where these numbers come from
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawkOur own market price, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.