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Prices by grade
Today's figures for every tier.
Raw · ungraded£2.62
Grade 9£73.90
Grade 9.5£81.29
PSA 10£88.68
BGS 10£115
CGC 10£53.21
At a glance
30-day high£2.69
30-day low£2.53
Tracked high£4.08
Days tracked141
Illustrator5ban Graphics
Pokédex302
Price history
116 readings · 141d
HoloHawk Est. MarketPriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
1 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.1026 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6927 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6928 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5329 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5330 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5331 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.531 Sept 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.532 Sept 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.62
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26 Aug28 Aug28 Aug2 Sept
HoloHawk Est. MarketPriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
1 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.103 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.534 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.535 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.536 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.537 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.538 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.539 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5310 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5311 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5612 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5613 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5614 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5615 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5616 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5617 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5618 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5619 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6820 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6821 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6922 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6923 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6924 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6925 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6926 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6927 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6928 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5329 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5330 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5331 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.531 Sept 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.532 Sept 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.62
£4.00£6.00£8.00
3 Aug5 Aug21 Aug2 Sept
HoloHawk Est. MarketPriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£4.0815 Apr 2026PriceCharting£4.0816 Apr 2026PriceCharting£4.0817 Apr 2026PriceCharting£4.0818 Apr 2026PriceCharting£4.0819 Apr 2026PriceCharting£4.0820 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.6721 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.6722 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.6723 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.6724 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.6725 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.6726 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.9927 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.9928 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.9929 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.9930 Apr 2026PriceCharting£2.991 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.992 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.523 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.524 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.525 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.526 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.527 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.968 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.969 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.9610 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.9611 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.9612 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.9613 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5914 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5915 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5916 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5917 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5918 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5919 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.4220 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.4221 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.4222 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.4223 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.4224 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.4225 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2826 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2827 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2828 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2829 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2830 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5631 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.561 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.562 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.563 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.564 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.565 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.566 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.567 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.568 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.229 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2210 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2211 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2212 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2213 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2214 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2215 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2216 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2217 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2218 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2219 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2220 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2221 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2222 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2223 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2224 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2225 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.2226 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5827 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5828 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5829 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5830 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.581 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.582 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.583 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.584 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.585 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.656 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.657 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.658 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.659 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6510 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6511 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.8212 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.8213 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.8214 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.8215 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.8216 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.8217 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5818 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5819 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5820 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5821 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5822 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5823 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5824 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.8425 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.8426 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.8427 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.8428 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.8429 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5330 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5331 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.531 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.532 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.533 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.534 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.535 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.536 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.537 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.538 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.539 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5310 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5311 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5612 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5613 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5614 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5615 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5616 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5617 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5618 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5619 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6820 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6821 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6922 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6923 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6924 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6925 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6926 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6927 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.6928 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5329 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5330 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.5331 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.531 Sept 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.532 Sept 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£8.10PriceCharting£2.62
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14 Apr25 May5 Jul2 Sept
HoloHawk Est. Market · PriceCharting · PulseTCG. Hover any point for that day's figures. Flat sections mean the price did not move — a reading is recorded only when it changes. PulseTCG has no readings for this card yet.
Graded price history
PSA 10 · £88.68
PSA 10Grade 9.5Grade 9BGS 10CGC 10
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£88.6815 Apr 2026PSA 10£88.6816 Apr 2026PSA 10£88.6817 Apr 2026PSA 10£88.6818 Apr 2026PSA 10£88.6819 Apr 2026PSA 10£88.6820 Apr 2026PSA 10£88.6821 Apr 2026PSA 10£88.6822 Apr 2026PSA 10£88.6823 Apr 2026PSA 10£88.6824 Apr 2026PSA 10£88.6825 Apr 2026PSA 10£88.6826 Apr 2026PSA 10£88.6827 Apr 2026PSA 10£88.6828 Apr 2026PSA 10£88.6829 Apr 2026PSA 10£88.6830 Apr 2026PSA 10£88.681 May 2026PSA 10£88.682 May 2026PSA 10£88.683 May 2026PSA 10£88.684 May 2026PSA 10£88.685 May 2026PSA 10£88.686 May 2026PSA 10£88.687 May 2026PSA 10£88.688 May 2026PSA 10£88.689 May 2026PSA 10£88.6810 May 2026PSA 10£88.6811 May 2026PSA 10£88.6812 May 2026PSA 10£88.6813 May 2026PSA 10£88.6814 May 2026PSA 10£88.6815 May 2026PSA 10£88.6816 May 2026PSA 10£88.6817 May 2026PSA 10£88.6818 May 2026PSA 10£88.6819 May 2026PSA 10£88.6820 May 2026PSA 10£88.6821 May 2026PSA 10£88.6822 May 2026PSA 10£88.6823 May 2026PSA 10£88.6824 May 2026PSA 10£88.6825 May 2026PSA 10£88.6826 May 2026PSA 10£88.6827 May 2026PSA 10£88.6828 May 2026PSA 10£88.6829 May 2026PSA 10£88.6830 May 2026PSA 10£88.6831 May 2026PSA 10£88.681 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.682 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.683 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.684 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.685 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.686 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.687 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.688 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.689 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6810 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6811 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6812 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6813 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6814 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6815 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6816 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6817 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6818 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6819 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6820 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6821 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6822 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6823 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6824 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6825 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6826 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6827 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6828 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6829 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.6830 Jun 2026PSA 10£88.681 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.682 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.683 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.684 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.685 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.686 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.687 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.688 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.689 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6810 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6811 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6812 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6813 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6814 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6815 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6816 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6817 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6818 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6819 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6820 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6821 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6822 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6823 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6824 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6825 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6826 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6827 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6828 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6829 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6830 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.6831 Jul 2026PSA 10£88.681 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.682 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.683 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.684 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.215 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.216 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.217 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.218 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.219 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2110 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2111 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2112 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2113 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2114 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2115 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2116 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2117 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2118 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2119 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2120 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2121 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2122 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2123 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2124 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2125 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2126 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2127 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2128 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2129 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2130 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.2131 Aug 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.211 Sept 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.212 Sept 2026PSA 10£88.68Grade 9.5£81.29Grade 9£73.90BGS 10£115CGC 10£53.21
£75.00£100
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Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
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How much new stock hits the UK market each day The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This charts how many appear for this card once the daily rollup has readings for it.
A direct count of listings we saw appear — not an estimate of every listing on eBay.
Confirmed sales per day
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How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. This charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day, from the first confirmed sale for this card.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
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Live UK listings for this card The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This fills as soon as one appears for this card, showing asking prices cheapest first.
Where these numbers come from
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawk Est. MarketOur own estimate, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.