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Prices by grade
Today's figures for every tier.
Raw · ungraded£4.37
PSA 10£642
PSA 9£22.77
CGC 10£257
BGS 10£834
At a glance
30-day high£4.37
30-day low£3.93
Tracked high£4.37
Days tracked197
IllustratorKariya
Pokédex196
Price history
132 readings · 197d
HoloHawk awaiting data£4.37+9.3%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
21 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0022 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0023 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.1124 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.1125 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0126 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0127 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0128 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.37
£4.00£4.10£4.20£4.30
21 Oct23 Oct23 Oct25 Oct25 Oct28 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£4.37+7.1%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
28 Sept 2026PriceCharting£4.0829 Sept 2026PriceCharting£4.0830 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.931 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.932 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.933 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.934 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.935 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.936 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.937 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.938 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.939 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9310 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9311 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9312 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9313 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9314 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9315 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9616 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9617 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9618 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9619 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0020 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0021 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0022 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0023 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.1124 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.1125 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0126 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0127 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0128 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.37
£4.00£4.20
28 Sept28 Sept15 Oct19 Oct25 Oct28 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£4.37+191.3%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1.5015 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1.5016 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1.5017 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1.5018 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1.5019 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1.5020 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1.6921 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1.6922 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1.6923 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1.6324 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1.6325 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1.6326 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1.6327 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1.6328 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1.6429 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1.6430 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1.641 May 2026PriceCharting£1.642 May 2026PriceCharting£2.173 May 2026PriceCharting£2.174 May 2026PriceCharting£2.175 May 2026PriceCharting£2.176 May 2026PriceCharting£2.177 May 2026PriceCharting£2.178 May 2026PriceCharting£2.179 May 2026PriceCharting£2.1710 May 2026PriceCharting£2.1711 May 2026PriceCharting£1.7312 May 2026PriceCharting£1.7313 May 2026PriceCharting£1.7314 May 2026PriceCharting£1.8415 May 2026PriceCharting£1.8416 May 2026PriceCharting£1.8417 May 2026PriceCharting£2.1418 May 2026PriceCharting£2.1419 May 2026PriceCharting£2.1420 May 2026PriceCharting£2.1421 May 2026PriceCharting£2.1422 May 2026PriceCharting£2.0923 May 2026PriceCharting£2.0924 May 2026PriceCharting£2.0925 May 2026PriceCharting£2.0926 May 2026PriceCharting£2.0927 May 2026PriceCharting£2.0928 May 2026PriceCharting£2.0929 May 2026PriceCharting£2.0930 May 2026PriceCharting£2.1931 May 2026PriceCharting£2.191 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.222 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.223 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.224 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.445 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.446 Jun 2026PriceCharting£2.447 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.008 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.009 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.0010 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.0011 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.0012 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.0013 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.2214 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.2215 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.2216 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.3517 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.3518 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.3519 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.3520 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.3521 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.3522 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.3523 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.3524 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.3525 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.3526 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.5827 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.5828 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.5829 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.6430 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.641 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.642 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.753 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.754 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.755 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.756 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.757 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.758 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.569 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.5610 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.5611 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.3012 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.3013 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.3014 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.3415 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.3416 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.3417 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.3418 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.1119 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.1120 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.1121 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.1122 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.3823 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.3824 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.3825 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.4126 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.4127 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.4128 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.4129 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.4130 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.5031 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.501 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.422 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.423 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.424 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.425 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.426 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.427 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.428 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.689 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.6810 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.6811 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7212 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7213 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7214 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7215 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7216 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.5417 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.5418 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.5419 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.5420 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.4821 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.4822 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.5723 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.5724 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.5725 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7426 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7427 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7428 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7429 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7430 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7431 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.751 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.752 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.753 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.774 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.775 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.776 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.777 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.758 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.759 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.8610 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.8611 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.8612 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.9013 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.9014 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.9015 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.9016 Sept 2026PriceCharting£4.2217 Sept 2026PriceCharting£4.2218 Sept 2026PriceCharting£4.2219 Sept 2026PriceCharting£4.2220 Sept 2026PriceCharting£4.2221 Sept 2026PriceCharting£4.2222 Sept 2026PriceCharting£4.3223 Sept 2026PriceCharting£4.3224 Sept 2026PriceCharting£4.3225 Sept 2026PriceCharting£4.0826 Sept 2026PriceCharting£4.0827 Sept 2026PriceCharting£4.0828 Sept 2026PriceCharting£4.0829 Sept 2026PriceCharting£4.0830 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.931 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.932 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.933 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.934 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.935 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.936 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.937 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.938 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.939 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9310 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9311 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9312 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9313 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9314 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9315 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9616 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9617 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9618 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9619 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0020 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0021 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0022 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0023 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.1124 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.1125 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0126 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0127 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.0128 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.37
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Three independent readings on one scale. A reading is recorded only when a price changes, so a flat stretch means it held. Hover or tap any day. HoloHawk and PulseTCG have no readings for this card yet.
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£11315 Apr 2026PSA 10£11316 Apr 2026PSA 10£16917 Apr 2026PSA 10£16918 Apr 2026PSA 10£16919 Apr 2026PSA 10£16920 Apr 2026PSA 10£16921 Apr 2026PSA 10£16922 Apr 2026PSA 10£16923 Apr 2026PSA 10£16924 Apr 2026PSA 10£16925 Apr 2026PSA 10£16926 Apr 2026PSA 10£16927 Apr 2026PSA 10£16928 Apr 2026PSA 10£16929 Apr 2026PSA 10£16930 Apr 2026PSA 10£1691 May 2026PSA 10£1692 May 2026PSA 10£1693 May 2026PSA 10£1694 May 2026PSA 10£1695 May 2026PSA 10£1696 May 2026PSA 10£1697 May 2026PSA 10£1698 May 2026PSA 10£1699 May 2026PSA 10£16910 May 2026PSA 10£16911 May 2026PSA 10£16912 May 2026PSA 10£16913 May 2026PSA 10£16914 May 2026PSA 10£16915 May 2026PSA 10£16916 May 2026PSA 10£16917 May 2026PSA 10£16918 May 2026PSA 10£16919 May 2026PSA 10£16920 May 2026PSA 10£16921 May 2026PSA 10£16922 May 2026PSA 10£16923 May 2026PSA 10£16924 May 2026PSA 10£16925 May 2026PSA 10£16926 May 2026PSA 10£16927 May 2026PSA 10£16928 May 2026PSA 10£16929 May 2026PSA 10£16930 May 2026PSA 10£16931 May 2026PSA 10£1691 Jun 2026PSA 10£1692 Jun 2026PSA 10£1693 Jun 2026PSA 10£1694 Jun 2026PSA 10£1695 Jun 2026PSA 10£1696 Jun 2026PSA 10£1697 Jun 2026PSA 10£1698 Jun 2026PSA 10£1699 Jun 2026PSA 10£16910 Jun 2026PSA 10£16911 Jun 2026PSA 10£16912 Jun 2026PSA 10£16913 Jun 2026PSA 10£16914 Jun 2026PSA 10£16915 Jun 2026PSA 10£16916 Jun 2026PSA 10£16917 Jun 2026PSA 10£16918 Jun 2026PSA 10£16919 Jun 2026PSA 10£16920 Jun 2026PSA 10£16921 Jun 2026PSA 10£16922 Jun 2026PSA 10£16923 Jun 2026PSA 10£16924 Jun 2026PSA 10£16925 Jun 2026PSA 10£16926 Jun 2026PSA 10£16927 Jun 2026PSA 10£16928 Jun 2026PSA 10£16929 Jun 2026PSA 10£16930 Jun 2026PSA 10£1691 Jul 2026PSA 10£1692 Jul 2026PSA 10£6683 Jul 2026PSA 10£6684 Jul 2026PSA 10£6685 Jul 2026PSA 10£6686 Jul 2026PSA 10£6687 Jul 2026PSA 10£6688 Jul 2026PSA 10£6689 Jul 2026PSA 10£66810 Jul 2026PSA 10£66811 Jul 2026PSA 10£66812 Jul 2026PSA 10£66813 Jul 2026PSA 10£66814 Jul 2026PSA 10£66815 Jul 2026PSA 10£66816 Jul 2026PSA 10£66817 Jul 2026PSA 10£66818 Jul 2026PSA 10£66819 Jul 2026PSA 10£66820 Jul 2026PSA 10£66821 Jul 2026PSA 10£66822 Jul 2026PSA 10£66823 Jul 2026PSA 10£66824 Jul 2026PSA 10£66825 Jul 2026PSA 10£66826 Jul 2026PSA 10£66827 Jul 2026PSA 10£66828 Jul 2026PSA 10£66829 Jul 2026PSA 10£66830 Jul 2026PSA 10£66831 Jul 2026PSA 10£6681 Aug 2026PSA 10£6682 Aug 2026PSA 10£6683 Aug 2026PSA 10£6684 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£30.00CGC 10£401BGS 10£8685 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£30.00CGC 10£401BGS 10£8686 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£30.00CGC 10£401BGS 10£8687 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£30.00CGC 10£401BGS 10£8688 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£30.00CGC 10£401BGS 10£8689 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£30.00CGC 10£401BGS 10£86810 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£30.00CGC 10£401BGS 10£86811 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£30.00CGC 10£401BGS 10£86812 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£30.00CGC 10£401BGS 10£86813 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£24.38CGC 10£401BGS 10£86814 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£24.38CGC 10£401BGS 10£86815 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£24.38CGC 10£401BGS 10£86816 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£24.38CGC 10£401BGS 10£86817 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£24.38CGC 10£401BGS 10£86818 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£24.38CGC 10£401BGS 10£86819 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£24.38CGC 10£401BGS 10£86820 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.73CGC 10£401BGS 10£86821 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.73CGC 10£401BGS 10£86822 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.73CGC 10£401BGS 10£86823 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.73CGC 10£401BGS 10£86824 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.73CGC 10£401BGS 10£86825 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.73CGC 10£401BGS 10£86826 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.73CGC 10£401BGS 10£86827 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.73CGC 10£401BGS 10£86828 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.73CGC 10£401BGS 10£86829 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.85CGC 10£401BGS 10£86830 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.85CGC 10£401BGS 10£86831 Aug 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.92CGC 10£401BGS 10£8681 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.92CGC 10£401BGS 10£8682 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.92CGC 10£401BGS 10£8683 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.35CGC 10£401BGS 10£8684 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.35CGC 10£401BGS 10£8685 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.35CGC 10£401BGS 10£8686 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.35CGC 10£401BGS 10£8687 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.16CGC 10£401BGS 10£8688 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.16CGC 10£401BGS 10£8689 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.16CGC 10£401BGS 10£86810 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.16CGC 10£401BGS 10£86811 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.16CGC 10£401BGS 10£86812 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.29CGC 10£401BGS 10£86813 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.29CGC 10£401BGS 10£86814 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.29CGC 10£401BGS 10£86815 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.29CGC 10£401BGS 10£86816 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.42CGC 10£401BGS 10£86817 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.42CGC 10£401BGS 10£86818 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.42CGC 10£401BGS 10£86819 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.42CGC 10£401BGS 10£86820 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.42CGC 10£401BGS 10£86821 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.42CGC 10£401BGS 10£86822 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.42CGC 10£401BGS 10£86823 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.42CGC 10£401BGS 10£86824 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.42CGC 10£401BGS 10£86825 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.42CGC 10£401BGS 10£86826 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.42CGC 10£401BGS 10£86827 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.42CGC 10£401BGS 10£86828 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.61CGC 10£401BGS 10£86829 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.61CGC 10£401BGS 10£86830 Sept 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.76CGC 10£401BGS 10£8681 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.76CGC 10£401BGS 10£8682 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.76CGC 10£401BGS 10£8683 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.76CGC 10£401BGS 10£8684 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.76CGC 10£401BGS 10£8685 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.76CGC 10£401BGS 10£8686 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.76CGC 10£401BGS 10£8687 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.76CGC 10£401BGS 10£8688 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.76CGC 10£401BGS 10£8689 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.76CGC 10£401BGS 10£86810 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.76CGC 10£401BGS 10£86811 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.76CGC 10£401BGS 10£86812 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.76CGC 10£401BGS 10£86813 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.76CGC 10£401BGS 10£86814 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.76CGC 10£401BGS 10£86815 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.88CGC 10£401BGS 10£86816 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.88CGC 10£401BGS 10£86817 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.88CGC 10£401BGS 10£86818 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.88CGC 10£401BGS 10£86819 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.82CGC 10£401BGS 10£86820 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.82CGC 10£401BGS 10£86821 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.82CGC 10£401BGS 10£86822 Oct 2026PSA 10£668PSA 9£22.82CGC 10£401BGS 10£86823 Oct 2026PSA 10£642PSA 9£22.80CGC 10£257BGS 10£83424 Oct 2026PSA 10£642PSA 9£22.80CGC 10£257BGS 10£83425 Oct 2026PSA 10£642PSA 9£22.79CGC 10£257BGS 10£83426 Oct 2026PSA 10£642PSA 9£22.79CGC 10£257BGS 10£83427 Oct 2026PSA 10£642PSA 9£22.79CGC 10£257BGS 10£83428 Oct 2026PSA 10£642PSA 9£22.77CGC 10£257BGS 10£834
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Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
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How much new stock hits the UK market each day The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This charts how many appear for this card once the daily rollup has readings for it.
A direct count of listings we saw appear — not an estimate of every listing on eBay.
Confirmed sales per day
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How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. This charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day, from the first confirmed sale for this card.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
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Live UK listings for this card The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This fills as soon as one appears for this card, showing asking prices cheapest first.
Where these numbers come from
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawkOur own market price, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.