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Prices by grade
PSA 10 = 69.6× raw
Today's figures for every tier. Graded history starts building tonight.
Raw · ungraded£105
Grade 9£1,377
Grade 9.5£1,515
PSA 10£7,312
BGS 10£9,506
CGC 10£4,387
A PSA 10 sells for 69.6× the raw card — a gap of £7,207. Grading fees and the risk of a 9 come out of that.
At a glance
30-day high£122
30-day low£94.37
Tracked high£125
Days tracked139
IllustratorThe Pokémon Company Art Team
Pokédex197
Price history
117 readings · 139d
HoloHawk Est. MarketPriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
24 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£11925 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£11626 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£11627 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£12228 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£12229 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£12230 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£12231 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£122PriceCharting£105
£110£120
24 Aug25 Aug27 Aug31 Aug
HoloHawk Est. MarketPriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
1 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£1082 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£1083 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£1014 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£1015 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£1016 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£1017 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£94.378 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£94.379 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£96.1410 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£96.1411 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£96.1412 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£96.1413 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£96.1414 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£96.1415 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£10316 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£10317 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£10318 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£126PriceCharting£11719 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£126PriceCharting£11720 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£126PriceCharting£11721 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£124PriceCharting£11922 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£11923 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£11924 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£11925 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£11626 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£11627 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£12228 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£12229 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£12230 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£12231 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£122PriceCharting£105
£100£120
1 Aug4 Aug18 Aug31 Aug
HoloHawk Est. MarketPriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
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Market£107PriceCharting£87.806 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£107PriceCharting£96.027 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£107PriceCharting£96.028 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£107PriceCharting£96.029 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£107PriceCharting£96.0210 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£107PriceCharting£96.0211 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£96.0212 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£96.0213 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£83.0914 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£83.0915 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£83.0916 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£81.7617 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£81.7618 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£81.7619 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£79.0420 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£79.0421 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£89.1722 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£89.1723 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£89.1724 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£89.1725 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£83.3726 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£117PriceCharting£83.3727 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£117PriceCharting£83.3728 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£117PriceCharting£83.3729 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£117PriceCharting£83.3730 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£117PriceCharting£94.3331 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£117PriceCharting£89.951 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£117PriceCharting£89.952 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£117PriceCharting£75.563 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£117PriceCharting£75.564 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£117PriceCharting£75.565 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£117PriceCharting£75.006 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£117PriceCharting£75.007 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£75.008 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£75.009 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£84.4610 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£84.4611 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£84.4612 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£87.5213 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£87.5214 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£87.5215 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£88.6316 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£10217 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£10218 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£10219 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£88.7020 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£88.7021 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£88.7022 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£99.9023 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£99.9024 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£99.9025 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£10426 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£10427 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£10428 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£120PriceCharting£10429 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£102PriceCharting£10430 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£102PriceCharting£1041 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£102PriceCharting£1072 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£102PriceCharting£1073 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£102PriceCharting£1074 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£117PriceCharting£1085 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£117PriceCharting£1086 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£117PriceCharting£1087 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£1088 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£1089 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£10810 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£10811 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£11112 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£109PriceCharting£11113 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£109PriceCharting£11514 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£109PriceCharting£11515 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£109PriceCharting£11516 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£109PriceCharting£12517 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£12518 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£12519 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£11820 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£11821 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£11822 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£11823 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£125PriceCharting£11024 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£11025 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£11026 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£10827 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£10828 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£11829 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£11830 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£11831 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£1081 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£1082 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£1083 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£1014 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£115PriceCharting£1015 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£1016 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£1017 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£94.378 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£94.379 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£96.1410 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£96.1411 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£96.1412 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£96.1413 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£96.1414 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£96.1415 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£10316 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£10317 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£113PriceCharting£10318 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£126PriceCharting£11719 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£126PriceCharting£11720 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£126PriceCharting£11721 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£124PriceCharting£11922 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£11923 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£11924 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£11925 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£11626 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£11627 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£12228 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£12229 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£12230 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£127PriceCharting£12231 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£122PriceCharting£105
£80.00£100£120
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HoloHawk Est. Market · PriceCharting · PulseTCG. Hover any point for that day's figures. Flat sections mean the price did not move — a reading is recorded only when it changes. PulseTCG has no readings for this card yet.
Graded price history
PSA 10 · £7,312
PSA 10Grade 9.5Grade 9BGS 10CGC 10
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£7,31215 Apr 2026PSA 10£7,31216 Apr 2026PSA 10£7,31217 Apr 2026PSA 10£7,31218 Apr 2026PSA 10£7,31219 Apr 2026PSA 10£7,31220 Apr 2026PSA 10£7,31221 Apr 2026PSA 10£7,31222 Apr 2026PSA 10£7,31223 Apr 2026PSA 10£7,31224 Apr 2026PSA 10£7,31225 Apr 2026PSA 10£7,31226 Apr 2026PSA 10£7,31227 Apr 2026PSA 10£7,31228 Apr 2026PSA 10£7,31229 Apr 2026PSA 10£7,31230 Apr 2026PSA 10£7,3121 May 2026PSA 10£7,3122 May 2026PSA 10£7,3123 May 2026PSA 10£7,3124 May 2026PSA 10£7,3125 May 2026PSA 10£7,3126 May 2026PSA 10£7,3127 May 2026PSA 10£7,3128 May 2026PSA 10£7,3129 May 2026PSA 10£7,31210 May 2026PSA 10£7,31211 May 2026PSA 10£7,31212 May 2026PSA 10£7,31213 May 2026PSA 10£7,31214 May 2026PSA 10£7,31215 May 2026PSA 10£7,31216 May 2026PSA 10£7,31217 May 2026PSA 10£7,31218 May 2026PSA 10£7,31219 May 2026PSA 10£7,31220 May 2026PSA 10£7,31221 May 2026PSA 10£7,31222 May 2026PSA 10£7,31223 May 2026PSA 10£7,31224 May 2026PSA 10£7,31225 May 2026PSA 10£7,31226 May 2026PSA 10£7,31227 May 2026PSA 10£7,31228 May 2026PSA 10£7,31229 May 2026PSA 10£7,31230 May 2026PSA 10£7,31231 May 2026PSA 10£7,3121 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,3122 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,3123 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,3124 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,3125 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,3126 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,3127 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,3128 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,3129 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31210 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31211 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31212 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31213 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31214 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31215 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31216 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31217 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31218 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31219 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31220 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31221 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31222 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31223 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31224 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31225 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31226 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31227 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31228 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31229 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,31230 Jun 2026PSA 10£7,3121 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,3122 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,3123 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,3124 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,3125 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,3126 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,3127 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,3128 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,3129 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31210 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31211 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31212 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31213 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31214 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31215 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31216 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31217 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31218 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31219 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31220 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31221 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31222 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31223 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31224 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31225 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31226 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31227 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31228 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31229 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31230 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,31231 Jul 2026PSA 10£7,3121 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,3122 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,3123 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,3124 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£894Grade 9£812BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,3875 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£894Grade 9£812BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,3876 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£894Grade 9£812BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,3877 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£894Grade 9£812BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,3878 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£894Grade 9£812BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,3879 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,177Grade 9£1,070BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38710 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,177Grade 9£1,070BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38711 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,177Grade 9£1,070BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38712 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,225Grade 9£1,113BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38713 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,225Grade 9£1,113BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38714 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,225Grade 9£1,113BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38715 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,213Grade 9£1,103BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38716 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,213Grade 9£1,103BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38717 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,213Grade 9£1,103BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38718 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,381Grade 9£1,256BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38719 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,381Grade 9£1,256BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38720 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,381Grade 9£1,256BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38721 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,381Grade 9£1,256BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38722 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,381Grade 9£1,256BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38723 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,381Grade 9£1,256BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38724 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,381Grade 9£1,256BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38725 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,381Grade 9£1,256BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38726 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,381Grade 9£1,256BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38727 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,505Grade 9£1,369BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38728 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,505Grade 9£1,369BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38729 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,505Grade 9£1,369BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38730 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,505Grade 9£1,369BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,38731 Aug 2026PSA 10£7,312Grade 9.5£1,515Grade 9£1,377BGS 10£9,506CGC 10£4,387
£5,000
14 Apr26 May5 Jul31 Aug
Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
0 today
How many new UK listings appear for this card each day. Rising supply against a
falling price is the clearest sell signal there is. This counts what we saw, so it is a sample of
the market rather than a total.
5 Aug 2026New listings/day16 Aug 2026New listings/day07 Aug 2026New listings/day08 Aug 2026New listings/day09 Aug 2026New listings/day010 Aug 2026New listings/day011 Aug 2026New listings/day012 Aug 2026New listings/day013 Aug 2026New listings/day014 Aug 2026New listings/day015 Aug 2026New listings/day016 Aug 2026New listings/day117 Aug 2026New listings/day018 Aug 2026New listings/day019 Aug 2026New listings/day120 Aug 2026New listings/day021 Aug 2026New listings/day122 Aug 2026New listings/day123 Aug 2026New listings/day024 Aug 2026New listings/day025 Aug 2026New listings/day026 Aug 2026New listings/day027 Aug 2026New listings/day028 Aug 2026New listings/day029 Aug 2026New listings/day030 Aug 2026New listings/day0
01
5 Aug13 Aug22 Aug30 Aug
New UK listings we saw appear each day. A direct count of what the scanner observed, not an estimate of everything on eBay. Source: HoloHawk, observed directly on eBay UK.
Confirmed sales per day
Auctions that closed with a winning bid. A sale we watched happen, not a listing that
disappeared for unknown reasons.
18 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day1
1
UK auctions that closed with a winning bid each day. Source: HoloHawk, observed directly on eBay UK.
Recent confirmed sales
Confirmed auction results
UK auctions that closed with a winning bid — not listings that merely disappeared.
Observed within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound on the hammer price.
Ended
Bids
Price
18 Aug
10
£118 or more
On sale now in the UK
3 live
Fixed-price listings we are currently tracking, cheapest first. Asking prices, not sales,
and a sample of what is listed rather than everything on eBay. Each row opens the listing on eBay — HoloHawk earns a commission on purchases made through it, and it never changes the price you pay.
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawk Est. MarketOur own estimate, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.