26 Aug 2026PulseTCG£47.5827 Aug 2026HoloHawk£40.38PriceCharting£33.52PulseTCG£47.5828 Aug 2026HoloHawk£40.38PriceCharting£36.51PulseTCG£47.5829 Aug 2026HoloHawk£40.38PriceCharting£36.51PulseTCG£47.5830 Aug 2026HoloHawk£38.97PriceCharting£36.51PulseTCG£47.5831 Aug 2026HoloHawk£38.97PriceCharting£37.14PulseTCG£47.581 Sept 2026HoloHawk£39.44PriceCharting£37.14PulseTCG£47.582 Sept 2026HoloHawk£39.44PriceCharting£37.14PulseTCG£47.583 Sept 2026HoloHawk£36.58PriceCharting£33.35PulseTCG£47.58
4 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.80PriceCharting£37.375 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.80PriceCharting£37.376 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.80PriceCharting£30.857 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.80PriceCharting£30.858 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.80PriceCharting£30.859 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.80PriceCharting£30.8510 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£30.8511 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£35.2312 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£35.2313 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£30.9614 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£30.9615 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£30.9616 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£35.8217 Aug 2026HoloHawk£33.46PriceCharting£35.8218 Aug 2026HoloHawk£33.46PriceCharting£35.8219 Aug 2026HoloHawk£33.46PriceCharting£32.9220 Aug 2026HoloHawk£34.24PriceCharting£32.9221 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£32.9222 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£33.4923 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£33.4924 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£33.4925 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£33.5226 Aug 2026HoloHawk£44.69PriceCharting£33.52PulseTCG£47.5827 Aug 2026HoloHawk£40.38PriceCharting£33.52PulseTCG£47.5828 Aug 2026HoloHawk£40.38PriceCharting£36.51PulseTCG£47.5829 Aug 2026HoloHawk£40.38PriceCharting£36.51PulseTCG£47.5830 Aug 2026HoloHawk£38.97PriceCharting£36.51PulseTCG£47.5831 Aug 2026HoloHawk£38.97PriceCharting£37.14PulseTCG£47.581 Sept 2026HoloHawk£39.44PriceCharting£37.14PulseTCG£47.582 Sept 2026HoloHawk£39.44PriceCharting£37.14PulseTCG£47.583 Sept 2026HoloHawk£36.58PriceCharting£33.35PulseTCG£47.58
14 Apr 2026HoloHawk£38.27PriceCharting£35.0015 Apr 2026HoloHawk£38.27PriceCharting£35.0016 Apr 2026HoloHawk£38.27PriceCharting£30.8817 Apr 2026HoloHawk£38.27PriceCharting£30.8818 Apr 2026HoloHawk£38.27PriceCharting£30.8819 Apr 2026HoloHawk£43.52PriceCharting£30.8820 Apr 2026HoloHawk£43.52PriceCharting£29.6921 Apr 2026HoloHawk£43.52PriceCharting£29.6922 Apr 2026HoloHawk£43.52PriceCharting£30.2423 Apr 2026HoloHawk£43.52PriceCharting£30.2424 Apr 2026HoloHawk£43.52PriceCharting£30.2425 Apr 2026HoloHawk£43.52PriceCharting£31.8326 Apr 2026HoloHawk£43.52PriceCharting£31.8327 Apr 2026HoloHawk£43.52PriceCharting£31.8328 Apr 2026HoloHawk£51.99PriceCharting£31.8329 Apr 2026HoloHawk£51.99PriceCharting£30.8930 Apr 2026HoloHawk£51.99PriceCharting£30.891 May 2026HoloHawk£51.99PriceCharting£30.892 May 2026HoloHawk£51.99PriceCharting£30.823 May 2026HoloHawk£51.99PriceCharting£30.824 May 2026HoloHawk£51.99PriceCharting£34.045 May 2026HoloHawk£50.96PriceCharting£34.046 May 2026HoloHawk£50.96PriceCharting£34.047 May 2026HoloHawk£50.96PriceCharting£34.048 May 2026HoloHawk£49.30PriceCharting£32.669 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£32.6610 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£32.6611 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£32.7612 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£32.7613 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£37.0214 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£37.0215 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£37.0216 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£37.0817 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£37.0818 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£37.0819 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£37.0820 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£36.9421 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£36.9422 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£50.4223 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£50.4224 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£50.4225 May 2026HoloHawk£47.09PriceCharting£44.6926 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£44.6927 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£44.6928 May 2026HoloHawk£47.54PriceCharting£44.6929 May 2026HoloHawk£44.47PriceCharting£44.6930 May 2026HoloHawk£48.45PriceCharting£46.7331 May 2026HoloHawk£45.87PriceCharting£43.401 Jun 2026HoloHawk£45.87PriceCharting£43.402 Jun 2026HoloHawk£43.52PriceCharting£43.403 Jun 2026HoloHawk£43.52PriceCharting£43.404 Jun 2026HoloHawk£43.52PriceCharting£49.005 Jun 2026HoloHawk£43.52PriceCharting£49.006 Jun 2026HoloHawk£43.52PriceCharting£49.007 Jun 2026HoloHawk£46.63PriceCharting£48.848 Jun 2026HoloHawk£46.63PriceCharting£48.849 Jun 2026HoloHawk£46.63PriceCharting£39.8410 Jun 2026HoloHawk£46.63PriceCharting£39.8411 Jun 2026HoloHawk£44.95PriceCharting£39.8412 Jun 2026HoloHawk£44.95PriceCharting£39.8413 Jun 2026HoloHawk£44.95PriceCharting£35.3914 Jun 2026HoloHawk£42.79PriceCharting£35.3915 Jun 2026HoloHawk£42.79PriceCharting£35.3916 Jun 2026HoloHawk£42.79PriceCharting£32.9117 Jun 2026HoloHawk£42.79PriceCharting£32.9118 Jun 2026HoloHawk£42.79PriceCharting£30.4019 Jun 2026HoloHawk£42.79PriceCharting£30.4020 Jun 2026HoloHawk£41.99PriceCharting£30.4021 Jun 2026HoloHawk£41.99PriceCharting£34.1222 Jun 2026HoloHawk£41.99PriceCharting£34.1223 Jun 2026HoloHawk£42.79PriceCharting£34.1224 Jun 2026HoloHawk£42.79PriceCharting£34.1225 Jun 2026HoloHawk£42.79PriceCharting£35.4426 Jun 2026HoloHawk£41.99PriceCharting£35.4427 Jun 2026HoloHawk£41.99PriceCharting£35.4428 Jun 2026HoloHawk£41.99PriceCharting£29.8729 Jun 2026HoloHawk£37.72PriceCharting£29.8730 Jun 2026HoloHawk£37.72PriceCharting£32.871 Jul 2026HoloHawk£38.62PriceCharting£32.872 Jul 2026HoloHawk£38.62PriceCharting£32.873 Jul 2026HoloHawk£38.62PriceCharting£32.874 Jul 2026HoloHawk£37.99PriceCharting£33.385 Jul 2026HoloHawk£37.99PriceCharting£33.386 Jul 2026HoloHawk£37.99PriceCharting£33.387 Jul 2026HoloHawk£38.28PriceCharting£33.388 Jul 2026HoloHawk£38.28PriceCharting£33.389 Jul 2026HoloHawk£39.07PriceCharting£36.6110 Jul 2026HoloHawk£39.07PriceCharting£36.6111 Jul 2026HoloHawk£39.07PriceCharting£36.6112 Jul 2026HoloHawk£39.07PriceCharting£36.6113 Jul 2026HoloHawk£39.07PriceCharting£36.8514 Jul 2026HoloHawk£39.07PriceCharting£36.8515 Jul 2026HoloHawk£39.07PriceCharting£36.8516 Jul 2026HoloHawk£39.07PriceCharting£33.3817 Jul 2026HoloHawk£39.07PriceCharting£33.3818 Jul 2026HoloHawk£39.07PriceCharting£33.3819 Jul 2026HoloHawk£39.07PriceCharting£31.5720 Jul 2026HoloHawk£39.07PriceCharting£31.5721 Jul 2026HoloHawk£39.07PriceCharting£31.5722 Jul 2026HoloHawk£39.07PriceCharting£31.5723 Jul 2026HoloHawk£39.07PriceCharting£29.6724 Jul 2026HoloHawk£31.90PriceCharting£29.6725 Jul 2026HoloHawk£31.90PriceCharting£29.6726 Jul 2026HoloHawk£31.90PriceCharting£32.4527 Jul 2026HoloHawk£31.90PriceCharting£32.4528 Jul 2026HoloHawk£31.90PriceCharting£30.9429 Jul 2026HoloHawk£31.90PriceCharting£30.9430 Jul 2026HoloHawk£31.90PriceCharting£30.9431 Jul 2026HoloHawk£31.90PriceCharting£30.941 Aug 2026HoloHawk£31.90PriceCharting£32.632 Aug 2026HoloHawk£31.90PriceCharting£32.633 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.80PriceCharting£37.374 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.80PriceCharting£37.375 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.80PriceCharting£37.376 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.80PriceCharting£30.857 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.80PriceCharting£30.858 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.80PriceCharting£30.859 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.80PriceCharting£30.8510 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£30.8511 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£35.2312 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£35.2313 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£30.9614 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£30.9615 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£30.9616 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£35.8217 Aug 2026HoloHawk£33.46PriceCharting£35.8218 Aug 2026HoloHawk£33.46PriceCharting£35.8219 Aug 2026HoloHawk£33.46PriceCharting£32.9220 Aug 2026HoloHawk£34.24PriceCharting£32.9221 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£32.9222 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£33.4923 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£33.4924 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£33.4925 Aug 2026HoloHawk£35.02PriceCharting£33.5226 Aug 2026HoloHawk£44.69PriceCharting£33.52PulseTCG£47.5827 Aug 2026HoloHawk£40.38PriceCharting£33.52PulseTCG£47.5828 Aug 2026HoloHawk£40.38PriceCharting£36.51PulseTCG£47.5829 Aug 2026HoloHawk£40.38PriceCharting£36.51PulseTCG£47.5830 Aug 2026HoloHawk£38.97PriceCharting£36.51PulseTCG£47.5831 Aug 2026HoloHawk£38.97PriceCharting£37.14PulseTCG£47.581 Sept 2026HoloHawk£39.44PriceCharting£37.14PulseTCG£47.582 Sept 2026HoloHawk£39.44PriceCharting£37.14PulseTCG£47.583 Sept 2026HoloHawk£36.58PriceCharting£33.35PulseTCG£47.58
£30.00£40.00£50.00
14 Apr8 May5 Jun28 Jun22 Jul3 Sept
Three independent readings on one scale. A reading is recorded only when a price changes, so a flat stretch means it held. Hover for any day.
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£2,28615 Apr 2026PSA 10£2,28616 Apr 2026PSA 10£2,28617 Apr 2026PSA 10£2,28618 Apr 2026PSA 10£2,28619 Apr 2026PSA 10£2,28620 Apr 2026PSA 10£2,28621 Apr 2026PSA 10£2,28622 Apr 2026PSA 10£2,28623 Apr 2026PSA 10£2,28624 Apr 2026PSA 10£2,28625 Apr 2026PSA 10£2,28626 Apr 2026PSA 10£2,28627 Apr 2026PSA 10£2,28628 Apr 2026PSA 10£2,28629 Apr 2026PSA 10£2,28630 Apr 2026PSA 10£2,2861 May 2026PSA 10£2,2862 May 2026PSA 10£2,2863 May 2026PSA 10£2,2864 May 2026PSA 10£2,2865 May 2026PSA 10£2,2866 May 2026PSA 10£2,2867 May 2026PSA 10£2,2868 May 2026PSA 10£2,2869 May 2026PSA 10£2,28610 May 2026PSA 10£2,28611 May 2026PSA 10£2,28612 May 2026PSA 10£2,28613 May 2026PSA 10£2,28614 May 2026PSA 10£2,28615 May 2026PSA 10£2,28616 May 2026PSA 10£2,28617 May 2026PSA 10£2,28618 May 2026PSA 10£2,28619 May 2026PSA 10£2,28620 May 2026PSA 10£2,28621 May 2026PSA 10£2,28622 May 2026PSA 10£2,28623 May 2026PSA 10£2,28624 May 2026PSA 10£2,28625 May 2026PSA 10£2,22326 May 2026PSA 10£2,22327 May 2026PSA 10£2,22328 May 2026PSA 10£2,22329 May 2026PSA 10£2,22330 May 2026PSA 10£2,22131 May 2026PSA 10£2,2181 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,2182 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,2183 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,2184 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,2155 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,2156 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,2157 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,2128 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,2129 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,20910 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,20911 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,20912 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,20913 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,20714 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,20715 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,20716 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,20417 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,20418 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,20219 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,20220 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,20221 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,19922 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,19923 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,19924 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,19925 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,19726 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,19727 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,19728 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,19429 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,19430 Jun 2026PSA 10£2,1921 Jul 2026PSA 10£2,1922 Jul 2026PSA 10£2,1923 Jul 2026PSA 10£2,1924 Jul 2026PSA 10£2,1905 Jul 2026PSA 10£2,1906 Jul 2026PSA 10£2,1907 Jul 2026PSA 10£2,1878 Jul 2026PSA 10£2,1879 Jul 2026PSA 10£2,18510 Jul 2026PSA 10£2,18511 Jul 2026PSA 10£2,18512 Jul 2026PSA 10£2,18513 Jul 2026PSA 10£2,18314 Jul 2026PSA 10£2,18315 Jul 2026PSA 10£2,18316 Jul 2026PSA 10£3,37517 Jul 2026PSA 10£3,37518 Jul 2026PSA 10£3,37519 Jul 2026PSA 10£3,37520 Jul 2026PSA 10£3,37521 Jul 2026PSA 10£3,37522 Jul 2026PSA 10£3,37523 Jul 2026PSA 10£3,37524 Jul 2026PSA 10£3,37525 Jul 2026PSA 10£3,37526 Jul 2026PSA 10£3,37527 Jul 2026PSA 10£3,37528 Jul 2026PSA 10£3,37529 Jul 2026PSA 10£3,37530 Jul 2026PSA 10£3,37531 Jul 2026PSA 10£3,3751 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,3752 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,3753 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,3754 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,375Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£235BGS 10£4,388CGC 10£2,0255 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,375Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£235BGS 10£4,388CGC 10£2,0256 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,375Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£238BGS 10£4,388CGC 10£2,0257 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,375Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£238BGS 10£4,388CGC 10£2,0258 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,375Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£238BGS 10£4,388CGC 10£2,0259 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,375Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£238BGS 10£4,388CGC 10£2,02510 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,375Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£238BGS 10£4,388CGC 10£2,02511 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,375Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£238BGS 10£4,388CGC 10£2,02512 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,375Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£238BGS 10£4,388CGC 10£2,02513 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,375Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£238BGS 10£4,388CGC 10£2,02514 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,375Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£238BGS 10£4,388CGC 10£2,02515 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,375Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£238BGS 10£4,388CGC 10£2,02516 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,349Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£238BGS 10£4,354CGC 10£2,01017 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,349Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£238BGS 10£4,354CGC 10£2,01018 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,349Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£238BGS 10£4,354CGC 10£2,01019 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,334Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£238BGS 10£4,334CGC 10£2,00020 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,334Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£238BGS 10£4,334CGC 10£2,00021 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,334Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£238BGS 10£4,334CGC 10£2,00022 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,323Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£241BGS 10£4,319CGC 10£1,99423 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,323Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£241BGS 10£4,319CGC 10£1,99424 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,323Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£241BGS 10£4,319CGC 10£1,99425 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,314Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£241BGS 10£4,308CGC 10£1,98826 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,314Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£241BGS 10£4,308CGC 10£1,98827 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,314Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£241BGS 10£4,308CGC 10£1,98828 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,307Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£241BGS 10£4,299CGC 10£1,98429 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,307Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£241BGS 10£4,299CGC 10£1,98430 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,307Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£241BGS 10£4,299CGC 10£1,98431 Aug 2026PSA 10£3,295Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£241BGS 10£4,283CGC 10£1,9771 Sept 2026PSA 10£3,295Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£241BGS 10£4,283CGC 10£1,9772 Sept 2026PSA 10£3,295Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£241BGS 10£4,283CGC 10£1,9773 Sept 2026PSA 10£3,289Grade 9.5£334Grade 9£225BGS 10£4,276CGC 10£1,974
£2,000£4,000
14 Apr8 May5 Jun28 Jun22 Jul3 Sept
Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
1 today
How many new UK listings appear for this card each day. Rising supply against a
falling price is the clearest sell signal there is. This counts what we saw, so it is a sample of
the market rather than a total.
3 Aug 2026New listings/day14 Aug 2026New listings/day05 Aug 2026New listings/day06 Aug 2026New listings/day07 Aug 2026New listings/day08 Aug 2026New listings/day09 Aug 2026New listings/day010 Aug 2026New listings/day011 Aug 2026New listings/day012 Aug 2026New listings/day013 Aug 2026New listings/day014 Aug 2026New listings/day015 Aug 2026New listings/day016 Aug 2026New listings/day017 Aug 2026New listings/day018 Aug 2026New listings/day019 Aug 2026New listings/day320 Aug 2026New listings/day121 Aug 2026New listings/day122 Aug 2026New listings/day023 Aug 2026New listings/day024 Aug 2026New listings/day025 Aug 2026New listings/day026 Aug 2026New listings/day127 Aug 2026New listings/day128 Aug 2026New listings/day029 Aug 2026New listings/day030 Aug 2026New listings/day131 Aug 2026New listings/day01 Sept 2026New listings/day1
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3 Aug13 Aug22 Aug1 Sept
New UK listings we saw appear each day. A direct count of what the scanner observed, not an estimate of everything on eBay. Source: HoloHawk, observed directly on eBay UK.
Confirmed sales per day
Auctions that closed with a winning bid. A sale we watched happen, not a listing that
disappeared for unknown reasons.
3 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day04 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day05 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day06 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day07 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day08 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day09 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day010 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day011 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day012 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day013 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day014 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day015 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day016 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day017 Aug 2026Confirmed sales/day0
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3 Aug10 Aug10 Aug17 Aug
UK auctions that closed with a winning bid each day. Source: HoloHawk, observed directly on eBay UK.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
6 live
Fixed-price listings we are currently tracking, cheapest first. Asking prices, not sales,
and a sample of what is listed rather than everything on eBay. Each row opens the listing on eBay — HoloHawk earns a commission on purchases made through it, and it never changes the price you pay.
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawkOur own market price, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.