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Prices by grade
PSA 10 = 43.2× raw
Today's figures for every tier.
Raw · ungraded£126
PSA 10£5,456
PSA 9£856
CGC 10£707
BGS 10£7,093
A PSA 10 sells for 43.2× the raw card — a gap of £5,330. Grading fees and the risk of a 9 come out of that.
At a glance
30-day high£184
30-day low£126
Tracked high£229
Days tracked197
IllustratorKouki Saitou
Pokédex141
Price history
130 readings · 197d
HoloHawk awaiting data£126-2.8%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
21 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13022 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13023 Oct 2026PriceCharting£12624 Oct 2026PriceCharting£12625 Oct 2026PriceCharting£12626 Oct 2026PriceCharting£12627 Oct 2026PriceCharting£12628 Oct 2026PriceCharting£126
£127£128£129
21 Oct23 Oct23 Oct25 Oct25 Oct28 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£126-31.6%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
28 Sept 2026PriceCharting£18429 Sept 2026PriceCharting£18430 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1841 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1842 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1843 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1844 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1845 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1846 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1847 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1848 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1849 Oct 2026PriceCharting£18410 Oct 2026PriceCharting£18411 Oct 2026PriceCharting£18412 Oct 2026PriceCharting£18413 Oct 2026PriceCharting£18414 Oct 2026PriceCharting£18415 Oct 2026PriceCharting£15116 Oct 2026PriceCharting£15117 Oct 2026PriceCharting£15118 Oct 2026PriceCharting£15119 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13020 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13021 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13022 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13023 Oct 2026PriceCharting£12624 Oct 2026PriceCharting£12625 Oct 2026PriceCharting£12626 Oct 2026PriceCharting£12627 Oct 2026PriceCharting£12628 Oct 2026PriceCharting£126
£140£160£180
28 Sept1 Oct15 Oct20 Oct23 Oct28 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£126-27.6%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£17415 Apr 2026PriceCharting£17016 Apr 2026PriceCharting£17017 Apr 2026PriceCharting£17018 Apr 2026PriceCharting£17019 Apr 2026PriceCharting£17020 Apr 2026PriceCharting£17021 Apr 2026PriceCharting£17022 Apr 2026PriceCharting£17023 Apr 2026PriceCharting£17024 Apr 2026PriceCharting£17925 Apr 2026PriceCharting£17926 Apr 2026PriceCharting£17927 Apr 2026PriceCharting£17928 Apr 2026PriceCharting£18629 Apr 2026PriceCharting£18630 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1861 May 2026PriceCharting£1862 May 2026PriceCharting£1803 May 2026PriceCharting£1804 May 2026PriceCharting£1805 May 2026PriceCharting£1806 May 2026PriceCharting£1807 May 2026PriceCharting£1808 May 2026PriceCharting£1809 May 2026PriceCharting£18010 May 2026PriceCharting£18011 May 2026PriceCharting£18812 May 2026PriceCharting£18813 May 2026PriceCharting£18814 May 2026PriceCharting£22915 May 2026PriceCharting£22916 May 2026PriceCharting£22917 May 2026PriceCharting£22918 May 2026PriceCharting£22919 May 2026PriceCharting£22920 May 2026PriceCharting£22921 May 2026PriceCharting£22922 May 2026PriceCharting£22923 May 2026PriceCharting£22924 May 2026PriceCharting£22925 May 2026PriceCharting£22926 May 2026PriceCharting£22927 May 2026PriceCharting£22928 May 2026PriceCharting£22929 May 2026PriceCharting£22930 May 2026PriceCharting£19331 May 2026PriceCharting£1931 Jun 2026PriceCharting£1932 Jun 2026PriceCharting£1783 Jun 2026PriceCharting£1784 Jun 2026PriceCharting£1785 Jun 2026PriceCharting£1786 Jun 2026PriceCharting£1787 Jun 2026PriceCharting£1788 Jun 2026PriceCharting£1789 Jun 2026PriceCharting£17810 Jun 2026PriceCharting£17811 Jun 2026PriceCharting£17812 Jun 2026PriceCharting£17813 Jun 2026PriceCharting£17814 Jun 2026PriceCharting£17815 Jun 2026PriceCharting£17816 Jun 2026PriceCharting£18717 Jun 2026PriceCharting£18718 Jun 2026PriceCharting£18719 Jun 2026PriceCharting£18820 Jun 2026PriceCharting£18821 Jun 2026PriceCharting£18822 Jun 2026PriceCharting£18823 Jun 2026PriceCharting£18824 Jun 2026PriceCharting£18825 Jun 2026PriceCharting£18826 Jun 2026PriceCharting£18827 Jun 2026PriceCharting£18828 Jun 2026PriceCharting£18829 Jun 2026PriceCharting£18830 Jun 2026PriceCharting£1881 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1882 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1883 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1974 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1975 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1976 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1977 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1978 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1979 Jul 2026PriceCharting£19710 Jul 2026PriceCharting£19711 Jul 2026PriceCharting£19712 Jul 2026PriceCharting£19713 Jul 2026PriceCharting£19714 Jul 2026PriceCharting£19715 Jul 2026PriceCharting£18816 Jul 2026PriceCharting£18817 Jul 2026PriceCharting£18818 Jul 2026PriceCharting£18819 Jul 2026PriceCharting£18820 Jul 2026PriceCharting£18821 Jul 2026PriceCharting£18822 Jul 2026PriceCharting£18823 Jul 2026PriceCharting£18824 Jul 2026PriceCharting£17925 Jul 2026PriceCharting£17926 Jul 2026PriceCharting£17927 Jul 2026PriceCharting£18828 Jul 2026PriceCharting£18829 Jul 2026PriceCharting£18830 Jul 2026PriceCharting£18831 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1881 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1882 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1883 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1884 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1885 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1886 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1877 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1878 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1879 Aug 2026PriceCharting£18710 Aug 2026PriceCharting£18711 Aug 2026PriceCharting£18712 Aug 2026PriceCharting£18713 Aug 2026PriceCharting£18614 Aug 2026PriceCharting£18615 Aug 2026PriceCharting£18616 Aug 2026PriceCharting£18617 Aug 2026PriceCharting£18618 Aug 2026PriceCharting£18619 Aug 2026PriceCharting£18620 Aug 2026PriceCharting£18621 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19222 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19223 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19224 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19225 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19426 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19427 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19428 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19429 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19430 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19431 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1941 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1942 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1943 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1944 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1945 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1946 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1947 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1948 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1949 Sept 2026PriceCharting£19410 Sept 2026PriceCharting£19411 Sept 2026PriceCharting£19412 Sept 2026PriceCharting£19413 Sept 2026PriceCharting£19414 Sept 2026PriceCharting£19415 Sept 2026PriceCharting£19416 Sept 2026PriceCharting£19817 Sept 2026PriceCharting£19818 Sept 2026PriceCharting£19819 Sept 2026PriceCharting£19820 Sept 2026PriceCharting£19821 Sept 2026PriceCharting£19822 Sept 2026PriceCharting£17523 Sept 2026PriceCharting£17524 Sept 2026PriceCharting£17525 Sept 2026PriceCharting£18426 Sept 2026PriceCharting£18427 Sept 2026PriceCharting£18428 Sept 2026PriceCharting£18429 Sept 2026PriceCharting£18430 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1841 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1842 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1843 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1844 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1845 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1846 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1847 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1848 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1849 Oct 2026PriceCharting£18410 Oct 2026PriceCharting£18411 Oct 2026PriceCharting£18412 Oct 2026PriceCharting£18413 Oct 2026PriceCharting£18414 Oct 2026PriceCharting£18415 Oct 2026PriceCharting£15116 Oct 2026PriceCharting£15117 Oct 2026PriceCharting£15118 Oct 2026PriceCharting£15119 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13020 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13021 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13022 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13023 Oct 2026PriceCharting£12624 Oct 2026PriceCharting£12625 Oct 2026PriceCharting£12626 Oct 2026PriceCharting£12627 Oct 2026PriceCharting£12628 Oct 2026PriceCharting£126
£150£200
14 Apr11 May10 Jun5 Jul31 Jul28 Oct
Three independent readings on one scale. A reading is recorded only when a price changes, so a flat stretch means it held. Hover or tap any day. HoloHawk and PulseTCG have no readings for this card yet.
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,50515 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,55316 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,55317 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,55318 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,57419 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,57420 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,57421 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,57422 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,57423 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,57424 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,57825 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,57826 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,57827 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,57828 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,57829 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,57830 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,5781 May 2026PSA 10£1,5782 May 2026PSA 10£1,6493 May 2026PSA 10£1,6494 May 2026PSA 10£1,6495 May 2026PSA 10£1,6496 May 2026PSA 10£1,6497 May 2026PSA 10£1,6498 May 2026PSA 10£1,6499 May 2026PSA 10£1,64910 May 2026PSA 10£1,64911 May 2026PSA 10£1,64912 May 2026PSA 10£1,64913 May 2026PSA 10£1,64914 May 2026PSA 10£1,64215 May 2026PSA 10£1,64216 May 2026PSA 10£1,64217 May 2026PSA 10£1,63818 May 2026PSA 10£1,63819 May 2026PSA 10£1,63820 May 2026PSA 10£1,63821 May 2026PSA 10£1,66822 May 2026PSA 10£1,66823 May 2026PSA 10£1,66824 May 2026PSA 10£1,66825 May 2026PSA 10£1,68326 May 2026PSA 10£1,68327 May 2026PSA 10£1,68328 May 2026PSA 10£1,68329 May 2026PSA 10£1,68330 May 2026PSA 10£1,68331 May 2026PSA 10£1,6831 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,6832 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,6833 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,6834 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,6835 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,6836 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,6837 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,6838 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,6839 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,68310 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,68311 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,68312 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,68313 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,68314 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,68315 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,68316 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,69917 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,69918 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,69919 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,69920 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,69921 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,69922 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,69923 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,69924 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,69925 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,69926 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,69927 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,69928 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,69929 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,69930 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,6991 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,6992 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,6993 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,6994 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,6995 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,6996 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,6997 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,6998 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,6999 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,69910 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,69911 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,69912 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,79013 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,79014 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,79015 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,79016 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,79017 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,79018 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,79019 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,79020 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,79021 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,79022 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,79023 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,79024 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,71225 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,71226 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,71227 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,71228 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,71229 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,71230 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,71231 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,7121 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,7122 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,7123 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,7124 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,712PSA 9£402CGC 10£508BGS 10£2,2265 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,712PSA 9£402CGC 10£508BGS 10£2,2266 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,809PSA 9£402CGC 10£508BGS 10£2,3527 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,809PSA 9£402CGC 10£508BGS 10£2,3528 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,809PSA 9£402CGC 10£508BGS 10£2,3529 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,809PSA 9£370CGC 10£501BGS 10£2,35210 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,809PSA 9£370CGC 10£501BGS 10£2,35211 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,809PSA 9£370CGC 10£501BGS 10£2,35212 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,809PSA 9£370CGC 10£501BGS 10£2,35213 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,756PSA 9£370CGC 10£497BGS 10£2,28314 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,756PSA 9£370CGC 10£497BGS 10£2,28315 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,756PSA 9£370CGC 10£497BGS 10£2,28316 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,712PSA 9£370CGC 10£495BGS 10£2,22617 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,712PSA 9£370CGC 10£495BGS 10£2,22618 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,712PSA 9£370CGC 10£494BGS 10£2,22619 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,712PSA 9£370CGC 10£494BGS 10£2,22620 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,712PSA 9£370CGC 10£494BGS 10£2,22621 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,712PSA 9£370CGC 10£493BGS 10£2,22622 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,712PSA 9£370CGC 10£493BGS 10£2,22623 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,712PSA 9£370CGC 10£493BGS 10£2,22624 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,712PSA 9£370CGC 10£493BGS 10£2,22625 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,712PSA 9£362CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,22626 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,712PSA 9£362CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,22627 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,712PSA 9£362CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,22628 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,690PSA 9£396CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,19829 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,690PSA 9£396CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,19830 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,690PSA 9£364CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,19831 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,690PSA 9£364CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,1981 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,690PSA 9£364CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,1982 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,690PSA 9£364CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,1983 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,690PSA 9£364CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,1984 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,690PSA 9£364CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,1985 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,690PSA 9£364CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,1986 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,734PSA 9£399CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,2547 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,734PSA 9£399CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,2548 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,734PSA 9£399CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,2549 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,734PSA 9£399CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,25410 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,734PSA 9£399CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,25411 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,690PSA 9£489CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,19812 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,690PSA 9£489CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,19813 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,690PSA 9£489CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,19814 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,690PSA 9£489CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,19815 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,690PSA 9£489CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,19816 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,734PSA 9£497CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,25417 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,734PSA 9£497CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,25418 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,734PSA 9£497CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,25419 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,734PSA 9£497CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,25420 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,734PSA 9£497CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,25421 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,734PSA 9£497CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,25422 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,734PSA 9£450CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,25423 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,734PSA 9£450CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,25424 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,734PSA 9£450CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,25425 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,972PSA 9£450CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,56326 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,972PSA 9£450CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,56327 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,972PSA 9£450CGC 10£460BGS 10£2,56328 Sept 2026PSA 10£2,008PSA 9£506CGC 10£509BGS 10£2,61129 Sept 2026PSA 10£2,008PSA 9£506CGC 10£509BGS 10£2,61130 Sept 2026PSA 10£2,008PSA 9£506CGC 10£509BGS 10£2,6111 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,008PSA 9£620CGC 10£509BGS 10£2,6112 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,008PSA 9£620CGC 10£509BGS 10£2,6113 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,008PSA 9£620CGC 10£509BGS 10£2,6114 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,008PSA 9£620CGC 10£509BGS 10£2,6115 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,008PSA 9£620CGC 10£509BGS 10£2,6116 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,008PSA 9£620CGC 10£509BGS 10£2,6117 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,008PSA 9£620CGC 10£509BGS 10£2,6118 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,008PSA 9£620CGC 10£509BGS 10£2,6119 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,008PSA 9£620CGC 10£509BGS 10£2,61110 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,008PSA 9£620CGC 10£509BGS 10£2,61111 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,008PSA 9£620CGC 10£509BGS 10£2,61112 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,008PSA 9£620CGC 10£509BGS 10£2,61113 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,008PSA 9£620CGC 10£509BGS 10£2,61114 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,008PSA 9£620CGC 10£509BGS 10£2,61115 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,268PSA 9£620CGC 10£707BGS 10£2,94816 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,268PSA 9£620CGC 10£707BGS 10£2,94817 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,268PSA 9£620CGC 10£707BGS 10£2,94818 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,268PSA 9£620CGC 10£707BGS 10£2,94819 Oct 2026PSA 10£2,268PSA 9£620CGC 10£707BGS 10£2,94920 Oct 2026PSA 10£3,951PSA 9£673CGC 10£707BGS 10£5,13621 Oct 2026PSA 10£3,951PSA 9£673CGC 10£707BGS 10£5,13622 Oct 2026PSA 10£3,951PSA 9£673CGC 10£707BGS 10£5,13623 Oct 2026PSA 10£3,951PSA 9£798CGC 10£707BGS 10£5,13624 Oct 2026PSA 10£3,951PSA 9£798CGC 10£707BGS 10£5,13625 Oct 2026PSA 10£4,090PSA 9£798CGC 10£707BGS 10£5,31726 Oct 2026PSA 10£4,090PSA 9£798CGC 10£707BGS 10£5,31727 Oct 2026PSA 10£4,090PSA 9£798CGC 10£707BGS 10£5,31728 Oct 2026PSA 10£5,456PSA 9£856CGC 10£707BGS 10£7,093
£2,000£4,000£6,000
14 Apr11 May10 Jun5 Jul31 Jul28 Oct
Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
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How much new stock hits the UK market each day The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This charts how many appear for this card once the daily rollup has readings for it.
A direct count of listings we saw appear — not an estimate of every listing on eBay.
Confirmed sales per day
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How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. This charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day, from the first confirmed sale for this card.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
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Live UK listings for this card The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This fills as soon as one appears for this card, showing asking prices cheapest first.
Where these numbers come from
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawkOur own market price, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.
