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Prices by grade
PSA 10 = 21.1× raw
Today's figures for every tier.
Raw · ungraded£43.39
PSA 10£914
PSA 9£187
CGC 10£190
BGS 10£1,189
A PSA 10 sells for 21.1× the raw card — a gap of £871. Grading fees and the risk of a 9 come out of that.
At a glance
30-day high£46.44
30-day low£43.19
Tracked high£55.50
Days tracked195
IllustratorMitsuhiro Arita
Pokédex31
Price history
120 readings · 195d
HoloHawk awaiting data£43.39+0.3%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
19 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2420 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2421 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2422 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2423 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2424 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2425 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2426 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.39
£43.25£43.30£43.35
19 Oct19 Oct20 Oct20 Oct26 Oct26 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£43.39-6.6%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
26 Sept 2026PriceCharting£46.4427 Sept 2026PriceCharting£46.4428 Sept 2026PriceCharting£46.4429 Sept 2026PriceCharting£46.4430 Sept 2026PriceCharting£43.191 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.192 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.193 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.194 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.195 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.196 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.197 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.198 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.199 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.1910 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.1911 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.1912 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.1913 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.1914 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.1915 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2416 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2417 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2418 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2419 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2420 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2421 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2422 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2423 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2424 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2425 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2426 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.39
£44.00£45.00£46.00
26 Sept30 Sept15 Oct15 Oct20 Oct26 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£43.39+15.2%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£37.6815 Apr 2026PriceCharting£53.1816 Apr 2026PriceCharting£53.1817 Apr 2026PriceCharting£53.1818 Apr 2026PriceCharting£53.1819 Apr 2026PriceCharting£53.1820 Apr 2026PriceCharting£53.1821 Apr 2026PriceCharting£53.1822 Apr 2026PriceCharting£53.1823 Apr 2026PriceCharting£53.1824 Apr 2026PriceCharting£53.1825 Apr 2026PriceCharting£53.1826 Apr 2026PriceCharting£53.1827 Apr 2026PriceCharting£53.1828 Apr 2026PriceCharting£53.1829 Apr 2026PriceCharting£53.1830 Apr 2026PriceCharting£53.181 May 2026PriceCharting£53.182 May 2026PriceCharting£53.183 May 2026PriceCharting£53.184 May 2026PriceCharting£53.185 May 2026PriceCharting£53.186 May 2026PriceCharting£53.187 May 2026PriceCharting£53.188 May 2026PriceCharting£53.189 May 2026PriceCharting£53.1810 May 2026PriceCharting£53.1811 May 2026PriceCharting£53.1812 May 2026PriceCharting£53.1813 May 2026PriceCharting£53.1814 May 2026PriceCharting£53.1815 May 2026PriceCharting£53.1816 May 2026PriceCharting£53.1817 May 2026PriceCharting£53.1818 May 2026PriceCharting£53.1819 May 2026PriceCharting£53.1820 May 2026PriceCharting£44.7721 May 2026PriceCharting£44.7722 May 2026PriceCharting£44.7723 May 2026PriceCharting£44.7724 May 2026PriceCharting£44.7725 May 2026PriceCharting£44.7726 May 2026PriceCharting£44.7727 May 2026PriceCharting£47.8028 May 2026PriceCharting£47.8029 May 2026PriceCharting£47.8030 May 2026PriceCharting£47.8031 May 2026PriceCharting£47.801 Jun 2026PriceCharting£39.092 Jun 2026PriceCharting£39.093 Jun 2026PriceCharting£39.094 Jun 2026PriceCharting£39.095 Jun 2026PriceCharting£39.096 Jun 2026PriceCharting£39.097 Jun 2026PriceCharting£39.098 Jun 2026PriceCharting£37.329 Jun 2026PriceCharting£37.3210 Jun 2026PriceCharting£37.3211 Jun 2026PriceCharting£37.3212 Jun 2026PriceCharting£35.8213 Jun 2026PriceCharting£35.8214 Jun 2026PriceCharting£35.8215 Jun 2026PriceCharting£35.8216 Jun 2026PriceCharting£35.8217 Jun 2026PriceCharting£35.8218 Jun 2026PriceCharting£35.8219 Jun 2026PriceCharting£35.8220 Jun 2026PriceCharting£32.6821 Jun 2026PriceCharting£32.6822 Jun 2026PriceCharting£32.6823 Jun 2026PriceCharting£32.6824 Jun 2026PriceCharting£32.6825 Jun 2026PriceCharting£32.6826 Jun 2026PriceCharting£32.6827 Jun 2026PriceCharting£32.6828 Jun 2026PriceCharting£55.0329 Jun 2026PriceCharting£55.0330 Jun 2026PriceCharting£55.031 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.032 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.033 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.034 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.035 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.036 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.037 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.038 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.039 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.0310 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.0311 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.0312 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.0313 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.5014 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.5015 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.5016 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.5017 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.5018 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.5019 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.5020 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.5021 Jul 2026PriceCharting£55.5022 Jul 2026PriceCharting£53.0223 Jul 2026PriceCharting£53.0224 Jul 2026PriceCharting£53.0225 Jul 2026PriceCharting£53.0226 Jul 2026PriceCharting£53.0227 Jul 2026PriceCharting£53.0228 Jul 2026PriceCharting£53.0229 Jul 2026PriceCharting£51.3930 Jul 2026PriceCharting£51.3931 Jul 2026PriceCharting£51.391 Aug 2026PriceCharting£51.392 Aug 2026PriceCharting£51.393 Aug 2026PriceCharting£51.394 Aug 2026PriceCharting£51.395 Aug 2026PriceCharting£51.396 Aug 2026PriceCharting£51.397 Aug 2026PriceCharting£51.398 Aug 2026PriceCharting£51.399 Aug 2026PriceCharting£51.3910 Aug 2026PriceCharting£51.3911 Aug 2026PriceCharting£51.3912 Aug 2026PriceCharting£51.3913 Aug 2026PriceCharting£44.8714 Aug 2026PriceCharting£44.8715 Aug 2026PriceCharting£44.8716 Aug 2026PriceCharting£44.8717 Aug 2026PriceCharting£44.8718 Aug 2026PriceCharting£44.8719 Aug 2026PriceCharting£46.8520 Aug 2026PriceCharting£46.8521 Aug 2026PriceCharting£46.8522 Aug 2026PriceCharting£46.8523 Aug 2026PriceCharting£46.8524 Aug 2026PriceCharting£46.8525 Aug 2026PriceCharting£47.2626 Aug 2026PriceCharting£47.2627 Aug 2026PriceCharting£47.2628 Aug 2026PriceCharting£47.2629 Aug 2026PriceCharting£47.2630 Aug 2026PriceCharting£47.2631 Aug 2026PriceCharting£47.261 Sept 2026PriceCharting£47.062 Sept 2026PriceCharting£47.063 Sept 2026PriceCharting£47.064 Sept 2026PriceCharting£47.065 Sept 2026PriceCharting£47.066 Sept 2026PriceCharting£47.067 Sept 2026PriceCharting£47.068 Sept 2026PriceCharting£47.069 Sept 2026PriceCharting£47.0610 Sept 2026PriceCharting£47.0611 Sept 2026PriceCharting£46.7312 Sept 2026PriceCharting£46.7313 Sept 2026PriceCharting£46.7314 Sept 2026PriceCharting£46.7315 Sept 2026PriceCharting£46.7316 Sept 2026PriceCharting£45.4517 Sept 2026PriceCharting£45.4518 Sept 2026PriceCharting£45.4519 Sept 2026PriceCharting£45.4520 Sept 2026PriceCharting£45.4521 Sept 2026PriceCharting£45.4522 Sept 2026PriceCharting£45.7023 Sept 2026PriceCharting£45.7024 Sept 2026PriceCharting£45.7025 Sept 2026PriceCharting£46.4426 Sept 2026PriceCharting£46.4427 Sept 2026PriceCharting£46.4428 Sept 2026PriceCharting£46.4429 Sept 2026PriceCharting£46.4430 Sept 2026PriceCharting£43.191 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.192 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.193 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.194 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.195 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.196 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.197 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.198 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.199 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.1910 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.1911 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.1912 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.1913 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.1914 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.1915 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2416 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2417 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2418 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2419 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2420 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2421 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2422 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2423 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2424 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2425 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.2426 Oct 2026PriceCharting£43.39
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14 Apr9 May6 Jun29 Jun23 Jul26 Oct
Three independent readings on one scale. A reading is recorded only when a price changes, so a flat stretch means it held. Hover or tap any day. HoloHawk and PulseTCG have no readings for this card yet.
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£23515 Apr 2026PSA 10£23516 Apr 2026PSA 10£23517 Apr 2026PSA 10£23518 Apr 2026PSA 10£23519 Apr 2026PSA 10£23520 Apr 2026PSA 10£23521 Apr 2026PSA 10£23522 Apr 2026PSA 10£23523 Apr 2026PSA 10£23524 Apr 2026PSA 10£23525 Apr 2026PSA 10£23526 Apr 2026PSA 10£23527 Apr 2026PSA 10£23528 Apr 2026PSA 10£23529 Apr 2026PSA 10£23530 Apr 2026PSA 10£2351 May 2026PSA 10£2352 May 2026PSA 10£2353 May 2026PSA 10£2354 May 2026PSA 10£2355 May 2026PSA 10£2356 May 2026PSA 10£2357 May 2026PSA 10£2358 May 2026PSA 10£2359 May 2026PSA 10£23510 May 2026PSA 10£23511 May 2026PSA 10£23512 May 2026PSA 10£23513 May 2026PSA 10£23514 May 2026PSA 10£23515 May 2026PSA 10£23516 May 2026PSA 10£23517 May 2026PSA 10£23518 May 2026PSA 10£23519 May 2026PSA 10£23520 May 2026PSA 10£23521 May 2026PSA 10£23522 May 2026PSA 10£23523 May 2026PSA 10£23524 May 2026PSA 10£23525 May 2026PSA 10£23526 May 2026PSA 10£23527 May 2026PSA 10£23528 May 2026PSA 10£23529 May 2026PSA 10£23530 May 2026PSA 10£23531 May 2026PSA 10£2351 Jun 2026PSA 10£2352 Jun 2026PSA 10£2353 Jun 2026PSA 10£2354 Jun 2026PSA 10£2355 Jun 2026PSA 10£2356 Jun 2026PSA 10£2357 Jun 2026PSA 10£2358 Jun 2026PSA 10£2359 Jun 2026PSA 10£23510 Jun 2026PSA 10£23511 Jun 2026PSA 10£23512 Jun 2026PSA 10£23513 Jun 2026PSA 10£23514 Jun 2026PSA 10£23515 Jun 2026PSA 10£23516 Jun 2026PSA 10£23517 Jun 2026PSA 10£23518 Jun 2026PSA 10£23519 Jun 2026PSA 10£23520 Jun 2026PSA 10£23521 Jun 2026PSA 10£23522 Jun 2026PSA 10£23523 Jun 2026PSA 10£23524 Jun 2026PSA 10£23525 Jun 2026PSA 10£23526 Jun 2026PSA 10£23527 Jun 2026PSA 10£23528 Jun 2026PSA 10£23529 Jun 2026PSA 10£23530 Jun 2026PSA 10£2351 Jul 2026PSA 10£2352 Jul 2026PSA 10£2353 Jul 2026PSA 10£2354 Jul 2026PSA 10£2355 Jul 2026PSA 10£2356 Jul 2026PSA 10£2357 Jul 2026PSA 10£2358 Jul 2026PSA 10£2359 Jul 2026PSA 10£23510 Jul 2026PSA 10£23511 Jul 2026PSA 10£23512 Jul 2026PSA 10£23513 Jul 2026PSA 10£23514 Jul 2026PSA 10£23515 Jul 2026PSA 10£23516 Jul 2026PSA 10£23517 Jul 2026PSA 10£23518 Jul 2026PSA 10£23519 Jul 2026PSA 10£23520 Jul 2026PSA 10£23521 Jul 2026PSA 10£23522 Jul 2026PSA 10£30023 Jul 2026PSA 10£30024 Jul 2026PSA 10£30025 Jul 2026PSA 10£30026 Jul 2026PSA 10£30027 Jul 2026PSA 10£30028 Jul 2026PSA 10£30029 Jul 2026PSA 10£30030 Jul 2026PSA 10£30031 Jul 2026PSA 10£3001 Aug 2026PSA 10£3002 Aug 2026PSA 10£3003 Aug 2026PSA 10£3004 Aug 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£149CGC 10£186BGS 10£1,0035 Aug 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£149CGC 10£186BGS 10£1,0036 Aug 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£149CGC 10£186BGS 10£1,0037 Aug 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£149CGC 10£186BGS 10£1,0038 Aug 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£149CGC 10£186BGS 10£1,0039 Aug 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£149CGC 10£186BGS 10£1,00310 Aug 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£149CGC 10£186BGS 10£1,00311 Aug 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£149CGC 10£186BGS 10£1,00312 Aug 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£149CGC 10£186BGS 10£1,00313 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£98114 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£98115 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£98116 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£98117 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£98118 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£98119 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£98120 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£98121 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£98122 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£98123 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£98124 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£98125 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£98126 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£98127 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£98128 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£98129 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£98130 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£98131 Aug 2026PSA 10£755PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£9811 Sept 2026PSA 10£747PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£9712 Sept 2026PSA 10£747PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£9713 Sept 2026PSA 10£747PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£9714 Sept 2026PSA 10£747PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£9715 Sept 2026PSA 10£747PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£9716 Sept 2026PSA 10£747PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£9717 Sept 2026PSA 10£747PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£9718 Sept 2026PSA 10£747PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£9719 Sept 2026PSA 10£747PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£97110 Sept 2026PSA 10£747PSA 9£177CGC 10£205BGS 10£97111 Sept 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£176CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,00312 Sept 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£176CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,00313 Sept 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£176CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,00314 Sept 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£176CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,00315 Sept 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£176CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,00316 Sept 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£175CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,00317 Sept 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£175CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,00318 Sept 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£175CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,00319 Sept 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£175CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,00320 Sept 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£175CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,00321 Sept 2026PSA 10£772PSA 9£175CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,00322 Sept 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£175CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,18923 Sept 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£175CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,18924 Sept 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£175CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,18925 Sept 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£174CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,18926 Sept 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£174CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,18927 Sept 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£174CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,18928 Sept 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£174CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,18929 Sept 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£174CGC 10£187BGS 10£1,18930 Sept 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£185CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,1891 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£185CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,1892 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£185CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,1893 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£185CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,1894 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£185CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,1895 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£185CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,1896 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£185CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,1897 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£185CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,1898 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£185CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,1899 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£185CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,18910 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£185CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,18911 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£185CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,18912 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£185CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,18913 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£185CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,18914 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£185CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,18915 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£188CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,18916 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£188CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,18917 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£188CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,18918 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£188CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,18919 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£188CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,18920 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£188CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,18921 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£188CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,18922 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£188CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,18923 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£188CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,18924 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£188CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,18925 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£188CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,18926 Oct 2026PSA 10£914PSA 9£187CGC 10£190BGS 10£1,189
£500£1,000
14 Apr9 May6 Jun29 Jun23 Jul26 Oct
Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
0 today
How many new UK listings appear for this card each day. Rising supply against a
falling price is the clearest sell signal there is. This counts what we saw, so it is a sample of
the market rather than a total.
27 Oct 2026New listings/day128 Oct 2026New listings/day029 Oct 2026New listings/day030 Oct 2026New listings/day0
01
27 Oct28 Oct29 Oct30 Oct
New UK listings we saw appear each day. A direct count of what the scanner observed, not an estimate of everything on eBay. Source: HoloHawk, observed directly on eBay UK.
Confirmed sales per day
Building
How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. This charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day, from the first confirmed sale for this card.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
1 live
Fixed-price listings we are currently tracking, cheapest first. Asking prices, not sales,
and a sample of what is listed rather than everything on eBay. Each row opens the listing on eBay — HoloHawk earns a commission on purchases made through it, and it never changes the price you pay.
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawkOur own market price, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.
