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Prices by grade
Today's figures for every tier. Graded history starts building tonight.
Raw · ungraded£0.12
Grade 9£7.43
Grade 9.5£8.12
PSA 10£22.28
BGS 10£28.81
CGC 10£13.29
At a glance
30-day high£0.18
30-day low£0.02
Tracked high£0.18
Days tracked137
IllustratorToyste Beach
Price history
113 readings · 137d
HoloHawk Est. MarketPriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
22 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0323 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0324 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0325 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0326 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0327 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0328 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0329 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.12
£0.50
22 Aug26 Aug27 Aug29 Aug
HoloHawk Est. MarketPriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
30 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0231 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.041 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.042 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.043 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.044 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.045 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.046 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.187 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.188 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.189 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.1810 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.1811 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0712 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0713 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0714 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0715 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0716 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0717 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0718 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0719 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0720 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0721 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0722 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0323 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0324 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0325 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0326 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0327 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0328 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0329 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.12
£0.50
30 Jul2 Aug6 Aug29 Aug
HoloHawk Est. MarketPriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.1415 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.1416 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.0717 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.0718 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.0719 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.0720 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.0821 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.0822 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.0823 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.0824 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.0825 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.1526 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.1527 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.1528 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.1529 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.1530 Apr 2026PriceCharting£0.151 May 2026PriceCharting£0.072 May 2026PriceCharting£0.073 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.074 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.075 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.076 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.137 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.138 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.139 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.1310 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0711 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0712 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0713 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0714 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0715 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0716 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.1817 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.1818 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.1819 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.1820 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.1821 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.1822 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0923 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0924 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0925 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0926 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0927 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0728 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0729 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0730 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0731 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.071 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.062 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.063 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.064 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.065 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.066 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.077 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.078 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.079 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0710 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0411 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0412 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0413 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0414 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0415 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0416 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0317 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0318 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0319 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0320 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0321 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0322 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0723 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0724 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0725 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0726 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0727 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0728 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0729 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0330 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.031 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.032 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.033 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.034 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.045 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.046 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.047 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.048 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.049 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0410 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0411 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0412 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0413 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0414 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0715 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0716 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0717 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0718 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0719 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0720 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0721 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0722 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0723 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0724 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0725 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0726 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0227 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0228 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0229 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0230 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0231 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.041 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.042 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.043 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.044 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.045 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.046 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.187 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.188 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.189 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.1810 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.1811 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0712 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0713 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0714 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0715 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0716 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0717 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0718 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0719 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0720 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0721 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0722 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0323 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0324 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0325 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0326 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0327 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0328 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.0329 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£0.99PriceCharting£0.12
£0.50
14 Apr23 May3 Jul29 Aug
HoloHawk Est. Market · PriceCharting · PulseTCG. Hover any point for that day's figures. Flat sections mean the price did not move — a reading is recorded only when it changes. PulseTCG has no readings for this card yet.
Graded price history
PSA 10 · £22.28
PSA 10Grade 9.5Grade 9BGS 10CGC 10
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£22.5315 Apr 2026PSA 10£22.5316 Apr 2026PSA 10£22.7617 Apr 2026PSA 10£22.7618 Apr 2026PSA 10£22.7619 Apr 2026PSA 10£22.7620 Apr 2026PSA 10£22.4721 Apr 2026PSA 10£22.4722 Apr 2026PSA 10£22.4723 Apr 2026PSA 10£22.4724 Apr 2026PSA 10£22.4725 Apr 2026PSA 10£22.5126 Apr 2026PSA 10£22.5127 Apr 2026PSA 10£22.5128 Apr 2026PSA 10£22.5129 Apr 2026PSA 10£22.5130 Apr 2026PSA 10£22.511 May 2026PSA 10£22.782 May 2026PSA 10£22.783 May 2026PSA 10£22.784 May 2026PSA 10£22.785 May 2026PSA 10£22.786 May 2026PSA 10£22.477 May 2026PSA 10£22.478 May 2026PSA 10£22.479 May 2026PSA 10£22.4710 May 2026PSA 10£22.7211 May 2026PSA 10£22.7212 May 2026PSA 10£22.7213 May 2026PSA 10£22.7214 May 2026PSA 10£22.7215 May 2026PSA 10£22.7216 May 2026PSA 10£22.4717 May 2026PSA 10£22.4718 May 2026PSA 10£22.4719 May 2026PSA 10£22.4720 May 2026PSA 10£22.4721 May 2026PSA 10£22.4722 May 2026PSA 10£22.9323 May 2026PSA 10£22.9324 May 2026PSA 10£22.9325 May 2026PSA 10£22.9326 May 2026PSA 10£22.9327 May 2026PSA 10£22.5328 May 2026PSA 10£22.5329 May 2026PSA 10£22.5330 May 2026PSA 10£22.5331 May 2026PSA 10£22.531 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.442 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.443 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.444 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.445 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.446 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.417 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.418 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.419 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.4110 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.4711 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.4712 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.4713 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.4714 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.4715 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.4716 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.3417 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.3418 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.3419 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.3420 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.3421 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.3422 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.2823 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.2824 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.2825 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.2826 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.2827 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.2828 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.2829 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.4730 Jun 2026PSA 10£22.471 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.472 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.473 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.474 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.285 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.286 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.287 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.288 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.289 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.3110 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.3111 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.3112 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.3113 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.3114 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.3115 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.3116 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.3117 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.3118 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.3119 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.3120 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.3121 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.4622 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.4623 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.4624 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.4625 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.4626 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.4327 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.4328 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.4329 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.4330 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.4331 Jul 2026PSA 10£22.251 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.252 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.253 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.254 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.25Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.42BGS 10£28.81CGC 10£13.295 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.25Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.42BGS 10£28.81CGC 10£13.296 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.34Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.45BGS 10£28.81CGC 10£13.297 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.34Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.45BGS 10£28.81CGC 10£13.298 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.34Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.45BGS 10£28.81CGC 10£13.299 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.34Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.45BGS 10£28.81CGC 10£13.2910 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.34Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.45BGS 10£28.81CGC 10£13.2911 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.92Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.67BGS 10£29.54CGC 10£14.0312 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.92Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.67BGS 10£29.54CGC 10£14.0313 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.92Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.67BGS 10£29.54CGC 10£14.0314 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.92Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.67BGS 10£29.54CGC 10£14.0315 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.92Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.67BGS 10£29.54CGC 10£14.0316 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.92Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.67BGS 10£29.54CGC 10£14.0317 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.46Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.50BGS 10£29.54CGC 10£13.2918 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.46Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.50BGS 10£29.54CGC 10£13.2919 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.46Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.50BGS 10£29.54CGC 10£13.2920 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.46Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.50BGS 10£29.54CGC 10£13.2921 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.46Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.50BGS 10£29.54CGC 10£13.2922 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.46Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.50BGS 10£29.54CGC 10£13.2923 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.46Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.50BGS 10£29.54CGC 10£13.2924 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.46Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.50BGS 10£29.54CGC 10£13.2925 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.46Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.50BGS 10£29.54CGC 10£13.2926 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.46Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.50BGS 10£29.54CGC 10£13.2927 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.46Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.50BGS 10£29.54CGC 10£13.2928 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.46Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.50BGS 10£29.54CGC 10£13.2929 Aug 2026PSA 10£22.28Grade 9.5£8.12Grade 9£7.43BGS 10£28.81CGC 10£13.29
£10.00£20.00
14 Apr23 May3 Jul29 Aug
Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
0 today
How many new UK listings appear for this card each day. Rising supply against a
falling price is the clearest sell signal there is. This counts what we saw, so it is a sample of
the market rather than a total.
9 Aug 2026New listings/day110 Aug 2026New listings/day011 Aug 2026New listings/day012 Aug 2026New listings/day013 Aug 2026New listings/day014 Aug 2026New listings/day015 Aug 2026New listings/day016 Aug 2026New listings/day017 Aug 2026New listings/day018 Aug 2026New listings/day019 Aug 2026New listings/day020 Aug 2026New listings/day021 Aug 2026New listings/day022 Aug 2026New listings/day023 Aug 2026New listings/day024 Aug 2026New listings/day025 Aug 2026New listings/day026 Aug 2026New listings/day127 Aug 2026New listings/day128 Aug 2026New listings/day029 Aug 2026New listings/day130 Aug 2026New listings/day0
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9 Aug16 Aug23 Aug30 Aug
New UK listings we saw appear each day. A direct count of what the scanner observed, not an estimate of everything on eBay. Source: HoloHawk, observed directly on eBay UK.
Confirmed sales per day
From tomorrow
How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. From tomorrow this charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
4 live
Fixed-price listings we are currently tracking, cheapest first. Asking prices, not sales,
and a sample of what is listed rather than everything on eBay. Each row opens the listing on eBay — HoloHawk earns a commission on purchases made through it, and it never changes the price you pay.
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawk Est. MarketOur own estimate, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.