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Prices by grade
Today's figures for every tier.
Raw · ungraded£4.60
PSA 10£220
PSA 9£22.52
CGC 10£87.86
BGS 10£286
At a glance
30-day high£4.60
30-day low£3.96
Tracked high£4.60
Days tracked197
Price history
119 readings · 197d
HoloHawk awaiting data£4.60+1.3%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
21 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5422 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5423 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5424 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5425 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5426 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5427 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5428 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.60
£4.54£4.56£4.58£4.60
21 Oct21 Oct23 Oct23 Oct28 Oct28 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£4.60+16.2%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
28 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.9629 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.9630 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.961 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.962 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.963 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.964 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.965 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.966 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.967 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.968 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.969 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9610 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9611 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9612 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9613 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9614 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9615 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5016 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5017 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5018 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5019 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5420 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5421 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5422 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5423 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5424 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5425 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5426 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5427 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5428 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.60
£4.00£4.20£4.40£4.60
28 Sept15 Oct19 Oct19 Oct23 Oct28 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£4.60+35.3%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.4015 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.4016 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.4017 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.4018 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.4019 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.4020 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.4021 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.4022 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.3823 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.3824 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.3825 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.3826 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.3827 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.3828 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.3829 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.3830 Apr 2026PriceCharting£3.381 May 2026PriceCharting£3.382 May 2026PriceCharting£3.383 May 2026PriceCharting£3.744 May 2026PriceCharting£3.745 May 2026PriceCharting£3.746 May 2026PriceCharting£3.747 May 2026PriceCharting£3.748 May 2026PriceCharting£3.749 May 2026PriceCharting£3.7410 May 2026PriceCharting£3.7411 May 2026PriceCharting£3.7412 May 2026PriceCharting£3.7413 May 2026PriceCharting£3.7414 May 2026PriceCharting£3.7415 May 2026PriceCharting£3.7416 May 2026PriceCharting£4.0217 May 2026PriceCharting£4.0218 May 2026PriceCharting£4.0219 May 2026PriceCharting£4.0220 May 2026PriceCharting£4.0221 May 2026PriceCharting£4.0222 May 2026PriceCharting£4.0223 May 2026PriceCharting£4.0224 May 2026PriceCharting£4.0225 May 2026PriceCharting£4.0226 May 2026PriceCharting£4.0227 May 2026PriceCharting£4.0228 May 2026PriceCharting£4.0229 May 2026PriceCharting£4.0230 May 2026PriceCharting£4.0231 May 2026PriceCharting£4.021 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.022 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.023 Jun 2026PriceCharting£4.024 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.775 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.776 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.777 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.778 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.779 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7710 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7711 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7712 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7713 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7714 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7715 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7716 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7717 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7718 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7719 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7720 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7721 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7722 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7723 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7724 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7725 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7726 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7727 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7728 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7729 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.7730 Jun 2026PriceCharting£3.771 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.772 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.773 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.774 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.775 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.776 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.777 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.778 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.779 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7710 Jul 2026PriceCharting£3.7711 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.1312 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.1313 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.1314 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.1315 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.1316 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.1517 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.1518 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.1519 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.1520 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.1521 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.2022 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.2023 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.2024 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.2025 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.2026 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.2027 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.2028 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.2029 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.2030 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.2031 Jul 2026PriceCharting£4.201 Aug 2026PriceCharting£4.202 Aug 2026PriceCharting£4.203 Aug 2026PriceCharting£4.204 Aug 2026PriceCharting£4.205 Aug 2026PriceCharting£4.206 Aug 2026PriceCharting£4.207 Aug 2026PriceCharting£4.208 Aug 2026PriceCharting£4.209 Aug 2026PriceCharting£4.2010 Aug 2026PriceCharting£4.2011 Aug 2026PriceCharting£4.2012 Aug 2026PriceCharting£4.2013 Aug 2026PriceCharting£4.2014 Aug 2026PriceCharting£4.2015 Aug 2026PriceCharting£4.2016 Aug 2026PriceCharting£4.2017 Aug 2026PriceCharting£4.2018 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7519 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7520 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7521 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7522 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7523 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7524 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7525 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7526 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7527 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7528 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7529 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7530 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.7531 Aug 2026PriceCharting£3.751 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.752 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.753 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.754 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.755 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.756 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.757 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.758 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.759 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.7510 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.7511 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.7512 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.7513 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.7514 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.7515 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.7516 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.7517 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.7518 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.7519 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.7520 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.7521 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.7522 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.9623 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.9624 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.9625 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.9626 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.9627 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.9628 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.9629 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.9630 Sept 2026PriceCharting£3.961 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.962 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.963 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.964 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.965 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.966 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.967 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.968 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.969 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9610 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9611 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9612 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9613 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9614 Oct 2026PriceCharting£3.9615 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5016 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5017 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5018 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5019 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5420 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5421 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5422 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5423 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5424 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5425 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5426 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5427 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.5428 Oct 2026PriceCharting£4.60
£3.50£4.00£4.50
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Three independent readings on one scale. A reading is recorded only when a price changes, so a flat stretch means it held. Hover or tap any day. HoloHawk and PulseTCG have no readings for this card yet.
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£22015 Apr 2026PSA 10£22016 Apr 2026PSA 10£22017 Apr 2026PSA 10£22018 Apr 2026PSA 10£22019 Apr 2026PSA 10£22020 Apr 2026PSA 10£22021 Apr 2026PSA 10£22022 Apr 2026PSA 10£22023 Apr 2026PSA 10£22024 Apr 2026PSA 10£22025 Apr 2026PSA 10£22026 Apr 2026PSA 10£22027 Apr 2026PSA 10£22028 Apr 2026PSA 10£22029 Apr 2026PSA 10£22030 Apr 2026PSA 10£2201 May 2026PSA 10£2202 May 2026PSA 10£2203 May 2026PSA 10£2204 May 2026PSA 10£2205 May 2026PSA 10£2206 May 2026PSA 10£2207 May 2026PSA 10£2208 May 2026PSA 10£2209 May 2026PSA 10£22010 May 2026PSA 10£22011 May 2026PSA 10£22012 May 2026PSA 10£22013 May 2026PSA 10£22014 May 2026PSA 10£22015 May 2026PSA 10£22016 May 2026PSA 10£22017 May 2026PSA 10£22018 May 2026PSA 10£22019 May 2026PSA 10£22020 May 2026PSA 10£22021 May 2026PSA 10£22022 May 2026PSA 10£22023 May 2026PSA 10£22024 May 2026PSA 10£22025 May 2026PSA 10£22026 May 2026PSA 10£22027 May 2026PSA 10£22028 May 2026PSA 10£22029 May 2026PSA 10£22030 May 2026PSA 10£22031 May 2026PSA 10£2201 Jun 2026PSA 10£2202 Jun 2026PSA 10£2203 Jun 2026PSA 10£2204 Jun 2026PSA 10£2205 Jun 2026PSA 10£2206 Jun 2026PSA 10£2207 Jun 2026PSA 10£2208 Jun 2026PSA 10£2209 Jun 2026PSA 10£22010 Jun 2026PSA 10£22011 Jun 2026PSA 10£22012 Jun 2026PSA 10£22013 Jun 2026PSA 10£22014 Jun 2026PSA 10£22015 Jun 2026PSA 10£22016 Jun 2026PSA 10£22017 Jun 2026PSA 10£22018 Jun 2026PSA 10£22019 Jun 2026PSA 10£22020 Jun 2026PSA 10£22021 Jun 2026PSA 10£22022 Jun 2026PSA 10£22023 Jun 2026PSA 10£22024 Jun 2026PSA 10£22025 Jun 2026PSA 10£22026 Jun 2026PSA 10£22027 Jun 2026PSA 10£22028 Jun 2026PSA 10£22029 Jun 2026PSA 10£22030 Jun 2026PSA 10£2201 Jul 2026PSA 10£2202 Jul 2026PSA 10£2203 Jul 2026PSA 10£2204 Jul 2026PSA 10£2205 Jul 2026PSA 10£2206 Jul 2026PSA 10£2207 Jul 2026PSA 10£2208 Jul 2026PSA 10£2209 Jul 2026PSA 10£22010 Jul 2026PSA 10£22011 Jul 2026PSA 10£22012 Jul 2026PSA 10£22013 Jul 2026PSA 10£22014 Jul 2026PSA 10£22015 Jul 2026PSA 10£22016 Jul 2026PSA 10£22017 Jul 2026PSA 10£22018 Jul 2026PSA 10£22019 Jul 2026PSA 10£22020 Jul 2026PSA 10£22021 Jul 2026PSA 10£22022 Jul 2026PSA 10£22023 Jul 2026PSA 10£22024 Jul 2026PSA 10£22025 Jul 2026PSA 10£22026 Jul 2026PSA 10£22027 Jul 2026PSA 10£22028 Jul 2026PSA 10£22029 Jul 2026PSA 10£22030 Jul 2026PSA 10£22031 Jul 2026PSA 10£2201 Aug 2026PSA 10£2202 Aug 2026PSA 10£2203 Aug 2026PSA 10£2204 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.07CGC 10£132BGS 10£2865 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.07CGC 10£132BGS 10£2866 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.07CGC 10£132BGS 10£2867 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.07CGC 10£132BGS 10£2868 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.15CGC 10£132BGS 10£2869 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.15CGC 10£132BGS 10£28610 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.15CGC 10£132BGS 10£28611 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.15CGC 10£132BGS 10£28612 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.15CGC 10£132BGS 10£28613 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.15CGC 10£132BGS 10£28614 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.15CGC 10£132BGS 10£28615 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.15CGC 10£132BGS 10£28616 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.15CGC 10£132BGS 10£28617 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.15CGC 10£132BGS 10£28618 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.20CGC 10£132BGS 10£28619 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.20CGC 10£132BGS 10£28620 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.20CGC 10£132BGS 10£28621 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.20CGC 10£132BGS 10£28622 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.20CGC 10£132BGS 10£28623 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.20CGC 10£132BGS 10£28624 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.23CGC 10£132BGS 10£28625 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.23CGC 10£132BGS 10£28626 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.23CGC 10£132BGS 10£28627 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.23CGC 10£132BGS 10£28628 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.23CGC 10£132BGS 10£28629 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.23CGC 10£132BGS 10£28630 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.24CGC 10£132BGS 10£28631 Aug 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.24CGC 10£132BGS 10£2861 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.24CGC 10£132BGS 10£2862 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.24CGC 10£132BGS 10£2863 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.24CGC 10£132BGS 10£2864 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.24CGC 10£132BGS 10£2865 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.24CGC 10£132BGS 10£2866 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.24CGC 10£132BGS 10£2867 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.24CGC 10£132BGS 10£2868 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.24CGC 10£132BGS 10£2869 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.24CGC 10£132BGS 10£28610 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.26CGC 10£132BGS 10£28611 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.26CGC 10£132BGS 10£28612 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.26CGC 10£132BGS 10£28613 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.26CGC 10£132BGS 10£28614 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.26CGC 10£132BGS 10£28615 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.26CGC 10£132BGS 10£28616 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.26CGC 10£132BGS 10£28617 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.26CGC 10£132BGS 10£28618 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.26CGC 10£132BGS 10£28619 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.26CGC 10£132BGS 10£28620 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.26CGC 10£132BGS 10£28621 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.26CGC 10£132BGS 10£28622 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.27CGC 10£132BGS 10£28623 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.27CGC 10£132BGS 10£28624 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.27CGC 10£132BGS 10£28625 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£28626 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£28627 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£28628 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£28629 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£28630 Sept 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£2861 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£2862 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£2863 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£2864 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£2865 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£2866 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£2867 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£2868 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£2869 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£28610 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£28611 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£28612 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£28613 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£28614 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£28.28CGC 10£132BGS 10£28615 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£22.52CGC 10£132BGS 10£28616 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£22.52CGC 10£132BGS 10£28617 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£22.52CGC 10£132BGS 10£28618 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£22.52CGC 10£132BGS 10£28619 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£22.52CGC 10£132BGS 10£28620 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£22.52CGC 10£132BGS 10£28621 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£22.52CGC 10£132BGS 10£28622 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£22.52CGC 10£132BGS 10£28623 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£22.52CGC 10£87.86BGS 10£28624 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£22.52CGC 10£87.86BGS 10£28625 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£22.52CGC 10£87.86BGS 10£28626 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£22.52CGC 10£87.86BGS 10£28627 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£22.52CGC 10£87.86BGS 10£28628 Oct 2026PSA 10£220PSA 9£22.52CGC 10£87.86BGS 10£286
£100£200
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Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
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How much new stock hits the UK market each day The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This charts how many appear for this card once the daily rollup has readings for it.
A direct count of listings we saw appear — not an estimate of every listing on eBay.
Confirmed sales per day
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How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. This charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day, from the first confirmed sale for this card.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
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Live UK listings for this card The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This fills as soon as one appears for this card, showing asking prices cheapest first.
Where these numbers come from
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawkOur own market price, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.
