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Prices by grade
PSA 10 = 5.0× raw
Today's figures for every tier. Graded history starts building tonight.
Raw · ungraded£69.75
Grade 9£92.32
Grade 9.5£103
PSA 10£352
BGS 10£457
CGC 10£41.73
A PSA 10 sells for 5.0× the raw card — a gap of £282. Grading fees and the risk of a 9 come out of that.
At a glance
30-day high£73.31
30-day low£59.09
Tracked high£77.55
Days tracked136
Illustrator5ban Graphics
Pokédex251
Price history
113 readings · 136d
HoloHawk Est. MarketPriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.7015 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.7016 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.7017 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.7018 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£51.6619 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£51.6620 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£51.6621 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.6122 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.7023 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.7024 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.7025 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.7026 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.7027 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.7028 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.75
£60.00
14 Aug18 Aug18 Aug21 Aug
HoloHawk Est. MarketPriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
22 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.7023 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.7024 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.7025 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.7026 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.7027 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.7028 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.7029 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£73.3130 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£59.0931 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£59.091 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£60.952 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£60.953 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£60.954 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£62.785 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£62.786 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£62.787 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.418 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.419 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.4110 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.4111 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.4112 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.4113 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.4114 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.4115 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.4116 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.4117 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.6118 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£51.66PriceCharting£69.6119 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£51.66PriceCharting£69.6120 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£51.66PriceCharting£69.6121 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.6122 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.7023 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.7024 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.7025 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.7026 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.7027 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.7028 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.75
£60.00£70.00
29 Jul1 Aug7 Aug28 Aug
HoloHawk Est. MarketPriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£61.1015 Apr 2026PriceCharting£61.1016 Apr 2026PriceCharting£61.1417 Apr 2026PriceCharting£61.1418 Apr 2026PriceCharting£61.1419 Apr 2026PriceCharting£70.2720 Apr 2026PriceCharting£70.2721 Apr 2026PriceCharting£70.2722 Apr 2026PriceCharting£70.2723 Apr 2026PriceCharting£70.2724 Apr 2026PriceCharting£70.2725 Apr 2026PriceCharting£70.2726 Apr 2026PriceCharting£70.2727 Apr 2026PriceCharting£70.2728 Apr 2026PriceCharting£61.0529 Apr 2026PriceCharting£61.0530 Apr 2026PriceCharting£61.051 May 2026PriceCharting£59.092 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£59.093 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£59.094 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£59.085 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£59.086 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£59.087 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£62.778 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£62.779 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£62.7710 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£62.7711 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£59.0812 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£59.0813 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£59.0814 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£59.0815 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£59.0816 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£51.66PriceCharting£59.0817 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£51.66PriceCharting£59.0818 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£51.66PriceCharting£59.0819 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£51.66PriceCharting£59.0820 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£51.66PriceCharting£59.0821 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£51.66PriceCharting£59.0822 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£59.0823 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£51.0224 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£51.0225 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£51.0226 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£51.0227 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£51.0228 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£51.0229 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£51.0230 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£59.0931 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£59.091 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£59.382 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£59.383 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£59.384 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£58.615 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£58.616 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£58.617 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£61.878 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£61.879 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£61.8710 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£59.1211 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£59.1212 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£59.1213 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£62.8014 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£62.8015 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£62.8016 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£66.4717 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£66.4718 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£66.4719 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£62.7820 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£62.7821 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£62.7822 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£62.7823 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£62.7824 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£48.54PriceCharting£62.7825 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£44.33PriceCharting£62.7826 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£44.33PriceCharting£62.7827 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£44.33PriceCharting£62.7828 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£44.33PriceCharting£62.7829 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£44.33PriceCharting£62.7830 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£44.33PriceCharting£62.781 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£44.33PriceCharting£73.982 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£44.33PriceCharting£73.983 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£44.33PriceCharting£73.984 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£44.33PriceCharting£74.695 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£44.33PriceCharting£74.696 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£44.33PriceCharting£74.697 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£44.33PriceCharting£74.698 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£44.33PriceCharting£74.699 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£44.33PriceCharting£74.6910 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£44.33PriceCharting£77.5511 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£44.33PriceCharting£77.5512 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£44.33PriceCharting£77.5513 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£77.5514 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£73.8615 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£73.8616 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£50.10PriceCharting£73.8617 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£72.6318 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£72.6319 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£72.6320 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£72.6321 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£72.6322 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£72.6323 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£73.3124 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£73.3125 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£73.3126 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£73.3127 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£73.3128 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£73.3129 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£73.3130 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£59.0931 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£59.091 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£60.952 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£60.953 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£60.954 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£62.785 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£62.786 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£62.787 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.418 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.419 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.4110 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.4111 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.4112 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.4113 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.4114 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.4115 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.4116 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.4117 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.6118 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£51.66PriceCharting£69.6119 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£51.66PriceCharting£69.6120 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£51.66PriceCharting£69.6121 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.6122 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.7023 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.7024 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.7025 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.7026 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.7027 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.7028 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£52.70PriceCharting£69.75
£60.00
14 Apr23 May3 Jul28 Aug
HoloHawk Est. Market · PriceCharting · PulseTCG. Hover any point for that day's figures. Flat sections mean the price did not move — a reading is recorded only when it changes. PulseTCG has no readings for this card yet.
Graded price history
PSA 10 · £352
PSA 10Grade 9.5Grade 9BGS 10CGC 10
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£22215 Apr 2026PSA 10£22216 Apr 2026PSA 10£22217 Apr 2026PSA 10£22218 Apr 2026PSA 10£22219 Apr 2026PSA 10£22220 Apr 2026PSA 10£22221 Apr 2026PSA 10£22222 Apr 2026PSA 10£22223 Apr 2026PSA 10£22224 Apr 2026PSA 10£22225 Apr 2026PSA 10£22226 Apr 2026PSA 10£22227 Apr 2026PSA 10£22228 Apr 2026PSA 10£22229 Apr 2026PSA 10£22230 Apr 2026PSA 10£2221 May 2026PSA 10£2222 May 2026PSA 10£2223 May 2026PSA 10£2224 May 2026PSA 10£2225 May 2026PSA 10£2226 May 2026PSA 10£2227 May 2026PSA 10£2578 May 2026PSA 10£2579 May 2026PSA 10£25710 May 2026PSA 10£25711 May 2026PSA 10£26812 May 2026PSA 10£26813 May 2026PSA 10£26814 May 2026PSA 10£27615 May 2026PSA 10£27616 May 2026PSA 10£27617 May 2026PSA 10£27618 May 2026PSA 10£27619 May 2026PSA 10£27620 May 2026PSA 10£27721 May 2026PSA 10£27722 May 2026PSA 10£27723 May 2026PSA 10£27724 May 2026PSA 10£27725 May 2026PSA 10£27726 May 2026PSA 10£27727 May 2026PSA 10£27728 May 2026PSA 10£27729 May 2026PSA 10£27730 May 2026PSA 10£27731 May 2026PSA 10£2771 Jun 2026PSA 10£2772 Jun 2026PSA 10£2773 Jun 2026PSA 10£2774 Jun 2026PSA 10£2815 Jun 2026PSA 10£2816 Jun 2026PSA 10£2817 Jun 2026PSA 10£2818 Jun 2026PSA 10£2819 Jun 2026PSA 10£28110 Jun 2026PSA 10£28811 Jun 2026PSA 10£28812 Jun 2026PSA 10£28813 Jun 2026PSA 10£30514 Jun 2026PSA 10£30515 Jun 2026PSA 10£30516 Jun 2026PSA 10£30517 Jun 2026PSA 10£30518 Jun 2026PSA 10£30519 Jun 2026PSA 10£31420 Jun 2026PSA 10£31421 Jun 2026PSA 10£31422 Jun 2026PSA 10£31423 Jun 2026PSA 10£31424 Jun 2026PSA 10£31425 Jun 2026PSA 10£31526 Jun 2026PSA 10£31527 Jun 2026PSA 10£31528 Jun 2026PSA 10£32129 Jun 2026PSA 10£32130 Jun 2026PSA 10£3211 Jul 2026PSA 10£3212 Jul 2026PSA 10£3213 Jul 2026PSA 10£3214 Jul 2026PSA 10£3215 Jul 2026PSA 10£3216 Jul 2026PSA 10£3217 Jul 2026PSA 10£3358 Jul 2026PSA 10£3359 Jul 2026PSA 10£33510 Jul 2026PSA 10£33911 Jul 2026PSA 10£33912 Jul 2026PSA 10£33913 Jul 2026PSA 10£33914 Jul 2026PSA 10£33115 Jul 2026PSA 10£33116 Jul 2026PSA 10£33117 Jul 2026PSA 10£33118 Jul 2026PSA 10£33119 Jul 2026PSA 10£33120 Jul 2026PSA 10£33121 Jul 2026PSA 10£33122 Jul 2026PSA 10£33123 Jul 2026PSA 10£32924 Jul 2026PSA 10£32925 Jul 2026PSA 10£32926 Jul 2026PSA 10£32927 Jul 2026PSA 10£32928 Jul 2026PSA 10£32929 Jul 2026PSA 10£32930 Jul 2026PSA 10£33031 Jul 2026PSA 10£3301 Aug 2026PSA 10£3292 Aug 2026PSA 10£3293 Aug 2026PSA 10£3294 Aug 2026PSA 10£349Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£454CGC 10£41.735 Aug 2026PSA 10£349Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£454CGC 10£41.736 Aug 2026PSA 10£349Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£454CGC 10£41.737 Aug 2026PSA 10£349Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£454CGC 10£41.738 Aug 2026PSA 10£349Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£454CGC 10£41.739 Aug 2026PSA 10£349Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£454CGC 10£41.7310 Aug 2026PSA 10£349Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£454CGC 10£41.7311 Aug 2026PSA 10£350Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£455CGC 10£41.7312 Aug 2026PSA 10£350Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£455CGC 10£41.7313 Aug 2026PSA 10£350Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£455CGC 10£41.7314 Aug 2026PSA 10£350Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£455CGC 10£41.7315 Aug 2026PSA 10£350Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£455CGC 10£41.7316 Aug 2026PSA 10£350Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£455CGC 10£41.7317 Aug 2026PSA 10£350Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£455CGC 10£41.7318 Aug 2026PSA 10£350Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£455CGC 10£41.7319 Aug 2026PSA 10£350Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£455CGC 10£41.7320 Aug 2026PSA 10£350Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£455CGC 10£41.7321 Aug 2026PSA 10£350Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£455CGC 10£41.7322 Aug 2026PSA 10£350Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£455CGC 10£41.7323 Aug 2026PSA 10£350Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£455CGC 10£41.7324 Aug 2026PSA 10£350Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£455CGC 10£41.7325 Aug 2026PSA 10£350Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£455CGC 10£41.7326 Aug 2026PSA 10£350Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£455CGC 10£41.7327 Aug 2026PSA 10£350Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£455CGC 10£41.7328 Aug 2026PSA 10£352Grade 9.5£103Grade 9£92.32BGS 10£457CGC 10£41.73
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Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
0 today
How many new UK listings appear for this card each day. Rising supply against a
falling price is the clearest sell signal there is. This counts what we saw, so it is a sample of
the market rather than a total.
7 Aug 2026New listings/day18 Aug 2026New listings/day09 Aug 2026New listings/day010 Aug 2026New listings/day011 Aug 2026New listings/day012 Aug 2026New listings/day013 Aug 2026New listings/day014 Aug 2026New listings/day015 Aug 2026New listings/day016 Aug 2026New listings/day017 Aug 2026New listings/day018 Aug 2026New listings/day119 Aug 2026New listings/day020 Aug 2026New listings/day021 Aug 2026New listings/day122 Aug 2026New listings/day023 Aug 2026New listings/day024 Aug 2026New listings/day025 Aug 2026New listings/day026 Aug 2026New listings/day027 Aug 2026New listings/day028 Aug 2026New listings/day029 Aug 2026New listings/day030 Aug 2026New listings/day0
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7 Aug15 Aug22 Aug30 Aug
New UK listings we saw appear each day. A direct count of what the scanner observed, not an estimate of everything on eBay. Source: HoloHawk, observed directly on eBay UK.
Confirmed sales per day
From tomorrow
How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. From tomorrow this charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
2 live
Fixed-price listings we are currently tracking, cheapest first. Asking prices, not sales,
and a sample of what is listed rather than everything on eBay. Each row opens the listing on eBay — HoloHawk earns a commission on purchases made through it, and it never changes the price you pay.
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawk Est. MarketOur own estimate, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.