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Prices by grade
PSA 10 = 10.8× raw
Today's figures for every tier. Graded history starts building tonight.
Raw · ungraded£16.46
Grade 9£18.56
Grade 9.5£20.68
PSA 10£177
BGS 10£230
CGC 10£73.86
A PSA 10 sells for 10.8× the raw card — a gap of £161. Grading fees and the risk of a 9 come out of that.
At a glance
30-day high£16.46
30-day low£15.14
Tracked high£16.46
Days tracked138
Illustratortakashi shiraishi
Pokédex585
Price history
117 readings · 138d
HoloHawk Est. MarketPriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
23 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£17.00PriceCharting£16.0624 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£17.00PriceCharting£16.0625 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£17.00PriceCharting£16.0626 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£17.00PriceCharting£16.0627 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.27PriceCharting£15.7828 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.27PriceCharting£15.7829 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.03PriceCharting£15.7830 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.03PriceCharting£16.46
£16.00£17.00
23 Aug24 Aug27 Aug30 Aug
HoloHawk Est. MarketPriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
31 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.221 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.222 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.223 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.144 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.145 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.146 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.687 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.688 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.689 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.35PriceCharting£15.6810 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.35PriceCharting£15.6811 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.35PriceCharting£15.7812 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.50PriceCharting£16.1213 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.50PriceCharting£16.1214 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.50PriceCharting£16.1215 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.65PriceCharting£16.2616 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.80PriceCharting£16.2617 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.80PriceCharting£16.2618 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.80PriceCharting£15.7419 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.80PriceCharting£15.7420 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.80PriceCharting£15.7421 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£17.11PriceCharting£16.0622 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£17.11PriceCharting£16.0623 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£17.00PriceCharting£16.0624 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£17.00PriceCharting£16.0625 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£17.00PriceCharting£16.0626 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£17.00PriceCharting£16.0627 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.27PriceCharting£15.7828 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.27PriceCharting£15.7829 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.03PriceCharting£15.7830 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.03PriceCharting£16.46
£16.00£17.00
31 Jul4 Aug15 Aug30 Aug
HoloHawk Est. MarketPriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£10.5115 Apr 2026PriceCharting£10.5116 Apr 2026PriceCharting£10.5117 Apr 2026PriceCharting£10.3518 Apr 2026PriceCharting£10.3519 Apr 2026PriceCharting£10.3520 Apr 2026PriceCharting£9.9621 Apr 2026PriceCharting£9.9622 Apr 2026PriceCharting£9.9623 Apr 2026PriceCharting£9.9624 Apr 2026PriceCharting£9.9625 Apr 2026PriceCharting£9.9626 Apr 2026PriceCharting£9.5927 Apr 2026PriceCharting£9.5928 Apr 2026PriceCharting£9.5929 Apr 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£9.5530 Apr 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£9.551 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£9.552 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£9.973 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£9.974 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£9.975 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£9.976 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£9.607 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£9.608 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£9.609 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£9.6010 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£9.6011 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£9.6812 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£9.6813 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£9.6814 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£10.9715 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£10.9716 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£10.9717 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£12.1418 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£12.1419 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£12.1420 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£11.0621 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£11.0622 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£11.0623 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£11.0624 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£11.0625 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£11.6626 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£11.6827 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£11.6828 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£11.6829 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£11.6830 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£12.9331 May 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£12.931 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£12.932 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£13.893 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£13.894 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£13.895 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£13.296 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£13.297 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£13.898 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£13.899 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£13.8910 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£13.2911 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£13.2912 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£13.2913 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£13.2914 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£9.13PriceCharting£13.2915 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.45PriceCharting£13.2916 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.45PriceCharting£13.3817 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.45PriceCharting£13.3818 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.45PriceCharting£13.3819 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.45PriceCharting£13.5520 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.45PriceCharting£13.5521 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.45PriceCharting£13.5522 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.45PriceCharting£13.5523 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.45PriceCharting£12.7024 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.45PriceCharting£12.7025 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.45PriceCharting£13.2126 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.45PriceCharting£13.2127 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.45PriceCharting£13.2128 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.45PriceCharting£14.7629 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.06PriceCharting£14.7630 Jun 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.06PriceCharting£14.761 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.06PriceCharting£14.762 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.06PriceCharting£14.763 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.06PriceCharting£14.764 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.06PriceCharting£15.325 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.06PriceCharting£15.326 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.06PriceCharting£15.327 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.06PriceCharting£14.678 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.22PriceCharting£14.679 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.22PriceCharting£14.6710 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.22PriceCharting£14.6711 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.22PriceCharting£14.1212 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.22PriceCharting£14.1213 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.22PriceCharting£14.7614 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£14.7615 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£14.7616 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£14.2617 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£14.2618 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£14.2619 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£14.2620 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£14.7721 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£14.7722 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.0223 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.0224 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.0225 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£14.7726 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£14.7727 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£14.7728 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£14.7729 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.8930 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.8931 Jul 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.221 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.222 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.223 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.144 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.145 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.146 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.687 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.688 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.76PriceCharting£15.689 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.35PriceCharting£15.6810 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.35PriceCharting£15.6811 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.35PriceCharting£15.7812 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.50PriceCharting£16.1213 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.50PriceCharting£16.1214 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.50PriceCharting£16.1215 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.65PriceCharting£16.2616 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.80PriceCharting£16.2617 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.80PriceCharting£16.2618 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.80PriceCharting£15.7419 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.80PriceCharting£15.7420 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£16.80PriceCharting£15.7421 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£17.11PriceCharting£16.0622 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£17.11PriceCharting£16.0623 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£17.00PriceCharting£16.0624 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£17.00PriceCharting£16.0625 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£17.00PriceCharting£16.0626 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£17.00PriceCharting£16.0627 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.27PriceCharting£15.7828 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.27PriceCharting£15.7829 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.03PriceCharting£15.7830 Aug 2026HoloHawk Est. Market£15.03PriceCharting£16.46
£10.00£15.00
14 Apr26 May5 Jul30 Aug
HoloHawk Est. Market · PriceCharting · PulseTCG. Hover any point for that day's figures. Flat sections mean the price did not move — a reading is recorded only when it changes. PulseTCG has no readings for this card yet.
Graded price history
PSA 10 · £177
PSA 10Grade 9.5Grade 9BGS 10CGC 10
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£77.9115 Apr 2026PSA 10£77.9116 Apr 2026PSA 10£77.9117 Apr 2026PSA 10£77.9118 Apr 2026PSA 10£77.9119 Apr 2026PSA 10£77.9120 Apr 2026PSA 10£83.3621 Apr 2026PSA 10£83.3622 Apr 2026PSA 10£83.3623 Apr 2026PSA 10£92.8524 Apr 2026PSA 10£92.8525 Apr 2026PSA 10£92.8526 Apr 2026PSA 10£90.7827 Apr 2026PSA 10£90.7828 Apr 2026PSA 10£90.7829 Apr 2026PSA 10£90.2630 Apr 2026PSA 10£90.261 May 2026PSA 10£90.262 May 2026PSA 10£97.643 May 2026PSA 10£97.644 May 2026PSA 10£97.645 May 2026PSA 10£97.646 May 2026PSA 10£97.647 May 2026PSA 10£97.648 May 2026PSA 10£97.649 May 2026PSA 10£97.6410 May 2026PSA 10£97.6411 May 2026PSA 10£97.6412 May 2026PSA 10£97.6413 May 2026PSA 10£97.6414 May 2026PSA 10£97.6415 May 2026PSA 10£97.6416 May 2026PSA 10£97.6417 May 2026PSA 10£96.9518 May 2026PSA 10£96.9519 May 2026PSA 10£96.9520 May 2026PSA 10£96.5121 May 2026PSA 10£96.5122 May 2026PSA 10£96.5123 May 2026PSA 10£96.5124 May 2026PSA 10£96.5125 May 2026PSA 10£96.2126 May 2026PSA 10£10727 May 2026PSA 10£10728 May 2026PSA 10£10729 May 2026PSA 10£10730 May 2026PSA 10£10731 May 2026PSA 10£1071 Jun 2026PSA 10£1072 Jun 2026PSA 10£1073 Jun 2026PSA 10£1074 Jun 2026PSA 10£1075 Jun 2026PSA 10£1076 Jun 2026PSA 10£1077 Jun 2026PSA 10£1068 Jun 2026PSA 10£1069 Jun 2026PSA 10£10610 Jun 2026PSA 10£10611 Jun 2026PSA 10£10612 Jun 2026PSA 10£10613 Jun 2026PSA 10£10614 Jun 2026PSA 10£10715 Jun 2026PSA 10£10716 Jun 2026PSA 10£10717 Jun 2026PSA 10£10718 Jun 2026PSA 10£10719 Jun 2026PSA 10£10720 Jun 2026PSA 10£10721 Jun 2026PSA 10£10722 Jun 2026PSA 10£10723 Jun 2026PSA 10£10724 Jun 2026PSA 10£10725 Jun 2026PSA 10£10726 Jun 2026PSA 10£10727 Jun 2026PSA 10£10728 Jun 2026PSA 10£10729 Jun 2026PSA 10£10730 Jun 2026PSA 10£1071 Jul 2026PSA 10£1072 Jul 2026PSA 10£1073 Jul 2026PSA 10£1074 Jul 2026PSA 10£1075 Jul 2026PSA 10£1076 Jul 2026PSA 10£1077 Jul 2026PSA 10£1078 Jul 2026PSA 10£1079 Jul 2026PSA 10£10710 Jul 2026PSA 10£10711 Jul 2026PSA 10£10712 Jul 2026PSA 10£10713 Jul 2026PSA 10£10714 Jul 2026PSA 10£10715 Jul 2026PSA 10£10716 Jul 2026PSA 10£10717 Jul 2026PSA 10£10718 Jul 2026PSA 10£10719 Jul 2026PSA 10£10720 Jul 2026PSA 10£12021 Jul 2026PSA 10£12022 Jul 2026PSA 10£12023 Jul 2026PSA 10£12024 Jul 2026PSA 10£12025 Jul 2026PSA 10£12026 Jul 2026PSA 10£12027 Jul 2026PSA 10£12028 Jul 2026PSA 10£12029 Jul 2026PSA 10£12030 Jul 2026PSA 10£12031 Jul 2026PSA 10£1661 Aug 2026PSA 10£1662 Aug 2026PSA 10£1663 Aug 2026PSA 10£1664 Aug 2026PSA 10£166Grade 9.5£22.90Grade 9£21.01BGS 10£216CGC 10£73.865 Aug 2026PSA 10£166Grade 9.5£22.90Grade 9£21.01BGS 10£216CGC 10£73.866 Aug 2026PSA 10£170Grade 9.5£22.90Grade 9£21.01BGS 10£221CGC 10£73.867 Aug 2026PSA 10£170Grade 9.5£22.90Grade 9£21.01BGS 10£221CGC 10£73.868 Aug 2026PSA 10£170Grade 9.5£22.90Grade 9£21.01BGS 10£221CGC 10£73.869 Aug 2026PSA 10£170Grade 9.5£22.90Grade 9£21.01BGS 10£221CGC 10£73.8610 Aug 2026PSA 10£170Grade 9.5£22.90Grade 9£21.01BGS 10£221CGC 10£73.8611 Aug 2026PSA 10£170Grade 9.5£22.90Grade 9£21.01BGS 10£221CGC 10£73.8612 Aug 2026PSA 10£174Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.86BGS 10£226CGC 10£73.8613 Aug 2026PSA 10£174Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.86BGS 10£226CGC 10£73.8614 Aug 2026PSA 10£174Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.86BGS 10£226CGC 10£73.8615 Aug 2026PSA 10£178Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.86BGS 10£232CGC 10£73.8616 Aug 2026PSA 10£178Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.86BGS 10£232CGC 10£73.8617 Aug 2026PSA 10£178Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.86BGS 10£232CGC 10£73.8618 Aug 2026PSA 10£179Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.86BGS 10£233CGC 10£73.8619 Aug 2026PSA 10£179Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.86BGS 10£233CGC 10£73.8620 Aug 2026PSA 10£179Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.86BGS 10£233CGC 10£73.8621 Aug 2026PSA 10£179Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.86BGS 10£233CGC 10£73.8622 Aug 2026PSA 10£179Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.86BGS 10£233CGC 10£73.8623 Aug 2026PSA 10£179Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.86BGS 10£233CGC 10£73.8624 Aug 2026PSA 10£179Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.86BGS 10£233CGC 10£73.8625 Aug 2026PSA 10£178Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.86BGS 10£231CGC 10£73.8626 Aug 2026PSA 10£178Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.86BGS 10£231CGC 10£73.8627 Aug 2026PSA 10£177Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.66BGS 10£230CGC 10£73.8628 Aug 2026PSA 10£177Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.66BGS 10£230CGC 10£73.8629 Aug 2026PSA 10£177Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.66BGS 10£230CGC 10£73.8630 Aug 2026PSA 10£177Grade 9.5£20.68Grade 9£18.56BGS 10£230CGC 10£73.86
£100£200
14 Apr26 May5 Jul30 Aug
Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
1 today
How many new UK listings appear for this card each day. Rising supply against a
falling price is the clearest sell signal there is. This counts what we saw, so it is a sample of
the market rather than a total.
9 Aug 2026New listings/day110 Aug 2026New listings/day011 Aug 2026New listings/day012 Aug 2026New listings/day113 Aug 2026New listings/day014 Aug 2026New listings/day115 Aug 2026New listings/day116 Aug 2026New listings/day117 Aug 2026New listings/day018 Aug 2026New listings/day119 Aug 2026New listings/day020 Aug 2026New listings/day021 Aug 2026New listings/day222 Aug 2026New listings/day123 Aug 2026New listings/day224 Aug 2026New listings/day125 Aug 2026New listings/day126 Aug 2026New listings/day027 Aug 2026New listings/day228 Aug 2026New listings/day029 Aug 2026New listings/day130 Aug 2026New listings/day1
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9 Aug16 Aug23 Aug30 Aug
New UK listings we saw appear each day. A direct count of what the scanner observed, not an estimate of everything on eBay. Source: HoloHawk, observed directly on eBay UK.
Confirmed sales per day
From tomorrow
How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. From tomorrow this charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
7 live
Fixed-price listings we are currently tracking, cheapest first. Asking prices, not sales,
and a sample of what is listed rather than everything on eBay. Each row opens the listing on eBay — HoloHawk earns a commission on purchases made through it, and it never changes the price you pay.
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawk Est. MarketOur own estimate, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.