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Prices by grade
PSA 10 = 7.0× raw
Today's figures for every tier.
Raw · ungraded£179
PSA 10£1,243
PSA 9£601
CGC 10£497
BGS 10£1,616
A PSA 10 sells for 7.0× the raw card — a gap of £1,065. Grading fees and the risk of a 9 come out of that.
At a glance
30-day high£179
30-day low£143
Tracked high£179
Days tracked192
IllustratorNaoyo Kimura
Pokédex242
Price history
118 readings · 192d
HoloHawk awaiting data£1790.0%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
16 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17917 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17918 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17919 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17920 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17921 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17922 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17923 Oct 2026PriceCharting£179
£170£175£180£185
16 Oct16 Oct16 Oct23 Oct23 Oct23 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£179+25.1%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
23 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14324 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14325 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14326 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14327 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14328 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14329 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14330 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1431 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1432 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1693 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1694 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1695 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1696 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1697 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1698 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1699 Oct 2026PriceCharting£16910 Oct 2026PriceCharting£16911 Oct 2026PriceCharting£16912 Oct 2026PriceCharting£16913 Oct 2026PriceCharting£16914 Oct 2026PriceCharting£16915 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17916 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17917 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17918 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17919 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17920 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17921 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17922 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17923 Oct 2026PriceCharting£179
£150£160£170
23 Sept26 Sept2 Oct2 Oct15 Oct23 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£179+41.5%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£12615 Apr 2026PriceCharting£12616 Apr 2026PriceCharting£12617 Apr 2026PriceCharting£12618 Apr 2026PriceCharting£12619 Apr 2026PriceCharting£12620 Apr 2026PriceCharting£12621 Apr 2026PriceCharting£12622 Apr 2026PriceCharting£13723 Apr 2026PriceCharting£13724 Apr 2026PriceCharting£13725 Apr 2026PriceCharting£13726 Apr 2026PriceCharting£13727 Apr 2026PriceCharting£13728 Apr 2026PriceCharting£13729 Apr 2026PriceCharting£13730 Apr 2026PriceCharting£1371 May 2026PriceCharting£1472 May 2026PriceCharting£1473 May 2026PriceCharting£1474 May 2026PriceCharting£1475 May 2026PriceCharting£1476 May 2026PriceCharting£1477 May 2026PriceCharting£1458 May 2026PriceCharting£1459 May 2026PriceCharting£14510 May 2026PriceCharting£14511 May 2026PriceCharting£14512 May 2026PriceCharting£14513 May 2026PriceCharting£14414 May 2026PriceCharting£14415 May 2026PriceCharting£14416 May 2026PriceCharting£14417 May 2026PriceCharting£14418 May 2026PriceCharting£14419 May 2026PriceCharting£15620 May 2026PriceCharting£15621 May 2026PriceCharting£15622 May 2026PriceCharting£15623 May 2026PriceCharting£15624 May 2026PriceCharting£15625 May 2026PriceCharting£15626 May 2026PriceCharting£15627 May 2026PriceCharting£15628 May 2026PriceCharting£15629 May 2026PriceCharting£15630 May 2026PriceCharting£15631 May 2026PriceCharting£1561 Jun 2026PriceCharting£1462 Jun 2026PriceCharting£1463 Jun 2026PriceCharting£1464 Jun 2026PriceCharting£1465 Jun 2026PriceCharting£1466 Jun 2026PriceCharting£1487 Jun 2026PriceCharting£1488 Jun 2026PriceCharting£1489 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14810 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14811 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14812 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14813 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14814 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14815 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14816 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14817 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14818 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14819 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14820 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14321 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14322 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14323 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14324 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14325 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14326 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14327 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14328 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14329 Jun 2026PriceCharting£14330 Jun 2026PriceCharting£1431 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1432 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1433 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1434 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1435 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1436 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1437 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1438 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1439 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14310 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14311 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14312 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14313 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14314 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14315 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14316 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14317 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14318 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14319 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14320 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14321 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14322 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14323 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14324 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14325 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14326 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14327 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14328 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14329 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14330 Jul 2026PriceCharting£14331 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1431 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1432 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1433 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1434 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1435 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1436 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1437 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1438 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1439 Aug 2026PriceCharting£14310 Aug 2026PriceCharting£14311 Aug 2026PriceCharting£14312 Aug 2026PriceCharting£14313 Aug 2026PriceCharting£14314 Aug 2026PriceCharting£14315 Aug 2026PriceCharting£14316 Aug 2026PriceCharting£14317 Aug 2026PriceCharting£14318 Aug 2026PriceCharting£15319 Aug 2026PriceCharting£15320 Aug 2026PriceCharting£15321 Aug 2026PriceCharting£15322 Aug 2026PriceCharting£15323 Aug 2026PriceCharting£15424 Aug 2026PriceCharting£15425 Aug 2026PriceCharting£15426 Aug 2026PriceCharting£15427 Aug 2026PriceCharting£15428 Aug 2026PriceCharting£15429 Aug 2026PriceCharting£15430 Aug 2026PriceCharting£15531 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1551 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1552 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1553 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1554 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1555 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1556 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1557 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1558 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1559 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14310 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14311 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14312 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14313 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14314 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14315 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14316 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14317 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14318 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14319 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14320 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14321 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14322 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14323 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14324 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14325 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14326 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14327 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14328 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14329 Sept 2026PriceCharting£14330 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1431 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1432 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1693 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1694 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1695 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1696 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1697 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1698 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1699 Oct 2026PriceCharting£16910 Oct 2026PriceCharting£16911 Oct 2026PriceCharting£16912 Oct 2026PriceCharting£16913 Oct 2026PriceCharting£16914 Oct 2026PriceCharting£16915 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17916 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17917 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17918 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17919 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17920 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17921 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17922 Oct 2026PriceCharting£17923 Oct 2026PriceCharting£179
£140£160
14 Apr8 May5 Jun28 Jun22 Jul23 Oct
Three independent readings on one scale. A reading is recorded only when a price changes, so a flat stretch means it held. Hover or tap any day. HoloHawk and PulseTCG have no readings for this card yet.
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,52515 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,52516 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,52517 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,52518 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,52519 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,52520 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,52521 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,52522 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,52523 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,52524 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,52525 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,52526 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,52527 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,52528 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,52529 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,52530 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,5251 May 2026PSA 10£1,5262 May 2026PSA 10£1,5263 May 2026PSA 10£1,5264 May 2026PSA 10£1,5265 May 2026PSA 10£1,5266 May 2026PSA 10£1,5267 May 2026PSA 10£1,5268 May 2026PSA 10£1,5269 May 2026PSA 10£1,52610 May 2026PSA 10£1,52611 May 2026PSA 10£1,52612 May 2026PSA 10£1,52613 May 2026PSA 10£1,52614 May 2026PSA 10£1,52615 May 2026PSA 10£1,52616 May 2026PSA 10£1,52617 May 2026PSA 10£1,52618 May 2026PSA 10£1,52619 May 2026PSA 10£1,52620 May 2026PSA 10£1,52621 May 2026PSA 10£1,52622 May 2026PSA 10£1,52623 May 2026PSA 10£1,52624 May 2026PSA 10£1,52625 May 2026PSA 10£1,52626 May 2026PSA 10£1,52627 May 2026PSA 10£1,52628 May 2026PSA 10£1,52629 May 2026PSA 10£1,52630 May 2026PSA 10£1,52631 May 2026PSA 10£1,5261 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,5262 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,5263 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,5264 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,5265 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,5266 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,5267 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,5268 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,5269 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52610 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52611 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52612 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52613 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52614 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52615 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52616 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52617 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52618 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52619 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52620 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52621 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52622 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52623 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52624 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52625 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52626 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52627 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52628 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52629 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,52630 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,5261 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,5262 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,5263 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,5264 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,5265 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,5266 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,5267 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,5268 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,5269 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,52610 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,52611 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,52612 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,52613 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,50614 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,50615 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,50616 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,50617 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,50618 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,50619 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,50620 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,50621 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,50622 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,50623 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,49424 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,49425 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,49426 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,49427 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,49428 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,49429 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,49430 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,48631 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,4861 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,4862 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,4863 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,4864 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,486PSA 9£437CGC 10£891BGS 10£1,9315 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,486PSA 9£437CGC 10£891BGS 10£1,9316 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,486PSA 9£437CGC 10£891BGS 10£1,9317 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,480PSA 9£437CGC 10£888BGS 10£1,9248 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,480PSA 9£437CGC 10£888BGS 10£1,9249 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,480PSA 9£437CGC 10£888BGS 10£1,92410 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,480PSA 9£437CGC 10£888BGS 10£1,92411 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,480PSA 9£437CGC 10£888BGS 10£1,92412 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,480PSA 9£437CGC 10£888BGS 10£1,92413 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,480PSA 9£437CGC 10£888BGS 10£1,92414 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,480PSA 9£437CGC 10£888BGS 10£1,92415 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,480PSA 9£437CGC 10£888BGS 10£1,92416 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,480PSA 9£437CGC 10£888BGS 10£1,92417 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,480PSA 9£437CGC 10£888BGS 10£1,92418 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,475PSA 9£428CGC 10£885BGS 10£1,91719 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,475PSA 9£428CGC 10£885BGS 10£1,91720 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,475PSA 9£428CGC 10£885BGS 10£1,91721 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,475PSA 9£428CGC 10£885BGS 10£1,91722 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,475PSA 9£428CGC 10£885BGS 10£1,91723 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,471PSA 9£424CGC 10£882BGS 10£1,91224 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,471PSA 9£424CGC 10£882BGS 10£1,91225 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,471PSA 9£424CGC 10£882BGS 10£1,91226 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,471PSA 9£424CGC 10£882BGS 10£1,91227 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,471PSA 9£424CGC 10£882BGS 10£1,91228 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,471PSA 9£424CGC 10£882BGS 10£1,91229 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,471PSA 9£424CGC 10£882BGS 10£1,91230 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,468PSA 9£431CGC 10£881BGS 10£1,90831 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,468PSA 9£431CGC 10£881BGS 10£1,9081 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,468PSA 9£431CGC 10£881BGS 10£1,9082 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,468PSA 9£431CGC 10£881BGS 10£1,9083 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,468PSA 9£431CGC 10£881BGS 10£1,9084 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,468PSA 9£431CGC 10£881BGS 10£1,9085 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,468PSA 9£431CGC 10£881BGS 10£1,9086 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,468PSA 9£431CGC 10£881BGS 10£1,9087 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,468PSA 9£431CGC 10£881BGS 10£1,9088 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,468PSA 9£431CGC 10£881BGS 10£1,9089 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,464PSA 9£434CGC 10£878BGS 10£1,90310 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,464PSA 9£434CGC 10£878BGS 10£1,90311 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,464PSA 9£434CGC 10£878BGS 10£1,90312 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,464PSA 9£434CGC 10£878BGS 10£1,90313 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,464PSA 9£434CGC 10£878BGS 10£1,90314 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,464PSA 9£434CGC 10£878BGS 10£1,90315 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,464PSA 9£434CGC 10£878BGS 10£1,90316 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,460PSA 9£436CGC 10£876BGS 10£1,89817 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,460PSA 9£436CGC 10£876BGS 10£1,89818 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,460PSA 9£436CGC 10£876BGS 10£1,89819 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,460PSA 9£436CGC 10£876BGS 10£1,89820 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,460PSA 9£436CGC 10£876BGS 10£1,89821 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,460PSA 9£436CGC 10£876BGS 10£1,89822 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,460PSA 9£436CGC 10£876BGS 10£1,89823 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,460PSA 9£436CGC 10£876BGS 10£1,89824 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,460PSA 9£436CGC 10£876BGS 10£1,89825 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,460PSA 9£436CGC 10£876BGS 10£1,89826 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,456PSA 9£437CGC 10£873BGS 10£1,89327 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,456PSA 9£437CGC 10£873BGS 10£1,89328 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,456PSA 9£437CGC 10£873BGS 10£1,89329 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,456PSA 9£437CGC 10£873BGS 10£1,89330 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,456PSA 9£437CGC 10£873BGS 10£1,8931 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,456PSA 9£437CGC 10£873BGS 10£1,8932 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,453PSA 9£444CGC 10£872BGS 10£1,8893 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,453PSA 9£444CGC 10£872BGS 10£1,8894 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,453PSA 9£444CGC 10£872BGS 10£1,8895 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,453PSA 9£444CGC 10£872BGS 10£1,8896 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,453PSA 9£444CGC 10£872BGS 10£1,8897 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,453PSA 9£444CGC 10£872BGS 10£1,8898 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,453PSA 9£444CGC 10£872BGS 10£1,8899 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,453PSA 9£444CGC 10£872BGS 10£1,88910 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,453PSA 9£444CGC 10£872BGS 10£1,88911 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,453PSA 9£444CGC 10£872BGS 10£1,88912 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,453PSA 9£444CGC 10£872BGS 10£1,88913 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,453PSA 9£444CGC 10£872BGS 10£1,88914 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,453PSA 9£444CGC 10£872BGS 10£1,88915 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,274PSA 9£448CGC 10£764BGS 10£1,65716 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,274PSA 9£448CGC 10£764BGS 10£1,65717 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,274PSA 9£448CGC 10£764BGS 10£1,65718 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,274PSA 9£448CGC 10£764BGS 10£1,65719 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,274PSA 9£448CGC 10£764BGS 10£1,65720 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,274PSA 9£448CGC 10£764BGS 10£1,65721 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,274PSA 9£448CGC 10£764BGS 10£1,65722 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,274PSA 9£448CGC 10£764BGS 10£1,65723 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,243PSA 9£601CGC 10£497BGS 10£1,616
£500£1,000£1,500
14 Apr8 May5 Jun28 Jun22 Jul23 Oct
Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
0 today
How many new UK listings appear for this card each day. Rising supply against a
falling price is the clearest sell signal there is. This counts what we saw, so it is a sample of
the market rather than a total.
13 Oct 2026New listings/day114 Oct 2026New listings/day015 Oct 2026New listings/day016 Oct 2026New listings/day017 Oct 2026New listings/day018 Oct 2026New listings/day019 Oct 2026New listings/day020 Oct 2026New listings/day021 Oct 2026New listings/day022 Oct 2026New listings/day023 Oct 2026New listings/day024 Oct 2026New listings/day125 Oct 2026New listings/day026 Oct 2026New listings/day027 Oct 2026New listings/day028 Oct 2026New listings/day0
01
13 Oct18 Oct23 Oct28 Oct
New UK listings we saw appear each day. A direct count of what the scanner observed, not an estimate of everything on eBay. Source: HoloHawk, observed directly on eBay UK.
Confirmed sales per day
Building
How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. This charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day, from the first confirmed sale for this card.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
2 live
Fixed-price listings we are currently tracking, cheapest first. Asking prices, not sales,
and a sample of what is listed rather than everything on eBay. Each row opens the listing on eBay — HoloHawk earns a commission on purchases made through it, and it never changes the price you pay.
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawkOur own market price, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.