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Prices by grade
PSA 10 = 9.4× raw
Today's figures for every tier.
Raw · ungraded£135
PSA 10£1,269
PSA 9£337
CGC 10£507
BGS 10£1,649
A PSA 10 sells for 9.4× the raw card — a gap of £1,133. Grading fees and the risk of a 9 come out of that.
At a glance
30-day high£136
30-day low£135
Tracked high£136
Days tracked194
IllustratorShin-ichi Yoshida
Pokédex101
Price history
119 readings · 194d
HoloHawk awaiting data£135-0.2%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
18 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13619 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13520 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13521 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13522 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13523 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13524 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13525 Oct 2026PriceCharting£135
£135£136
18 Oct19 Oct19 Oct23 Oct23 Oct25 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£135-0.7%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
25 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13626 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13627 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13628 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13629 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13630 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1361 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1362 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1363 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1364 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1365 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1366 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1367 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1368 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1369 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13610 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13611 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13612 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13613 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13614 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13615 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13616 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13617 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13618 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13619 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13520 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13521 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13522 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13523 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13524 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13525 Oct 2026PriceCharting£135
£136£136
25 Sept27 Sept15 Oct19 Oct23 Oct25 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£135+89.2%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£71.5215 Apr 2026PriceCharting£71.5216 Apr 2026PriceCharting£71.5217 Apr 2026PriceCharting£71.5218 Apr 2026PriceCharting£71.5219 Apr 2026PriceCharting£86.7720 Apr 2026PriceCharting£86.7721 Apr 2026PriceCharting£86.7722 Apr 2026PriceCharting£86.7723 Apr 2026PriceCharting£86.7724 Apr 2026PriceCharting£86.7725 Apr 2026PriceCharting£86.8226 Apr 2026PriceCharting£86.8227 Apr 2026PriceCharting£86.8228 Apr 2026PriceCharting£86.8229 Apr 2026PriceCharting£86.8230 Apr 2026PriceCharting£86.791 May 2026PriceCharting£86.792 May 2026PriceCharting£86.793 May 2026PriceCharting£86.794 May 2026PriceCharting£86.795 May 2026PriceCharting£86.796 May 2026PriceCharting£86.797 May 2026PriceCharting£86.798 May 2026PriceCharting£86.729 May 2026PriceCharting£86.7210 May 2026PriceCharting£86.7211 May 2026PriceCharting£86.7212 May 2026PriceCharting£86.7213 May 2026PriceCharting£86.7214 May 2026PriceCharting£86.7215 May 2026PriceCharting£86.7216 May 2026PriceCharting£86.7217 May 2026PriceCharting£86.7218 May 2026PriceCharting£86.6319 May 2026PriceCharting£86.6320 May 2026PriceCharting£86.6321 May 2026PriceCharting£86.6322 May 2026PriceCharting£86.6323 May 2026PriceCharting£86.6324 May 2026PriceCharting£86.6325 May 2026PriceCharting£86.2826 May 2026PriceCharting£86.2827 May 2026PriceCharting£86.2828 May 2026PriceCharting£86.2829 May 2026PriceCharting£86.2830 May 2026PriceCharting£86.2831 May 2026PriceCharting£86.101 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.102 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.103 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.104 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.105 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.106 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.287 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.288 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.289 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2810 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2811 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2812 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2813 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2814 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2815 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2816 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2817 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2818 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2819 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2820 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2821 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2822 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2823 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2824 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2825 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2826 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2827 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2828 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2829 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.2830 Jun 2026PriceCharting£86.281 Jul 2026PriceCharting£86.282 Jul 2026PriceCharting£86.283 Jul 2026PriceCharting£86.284 Jul 2026PriceCharting£86.285 Jul 2026PriceCharting£86.286 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1007 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1008 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1009 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10010 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10011 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10012 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10013 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10014 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10015 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10016 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10017 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10018 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10019 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10120 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10121 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10122 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10123 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10124 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10125 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10126 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10127 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10128 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10129 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10130 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10131 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1011 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1012 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1013 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1014 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1015 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1016 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1017 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1018 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1019 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10110 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10111 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10112 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10113 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10114 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10115 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10116 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10117 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10118 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10119 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10120 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10121 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10122 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10123 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10124 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10125 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10126 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10127 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10128 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10129 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10130 Aug 2026PriceCharting£10131 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1011 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1012 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1013 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1014 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1365 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1366 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1367 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1368 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1369 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13610 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13611 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13612 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13613 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13614 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13615 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13616 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13617 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13618 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13619 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13620 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13621 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13622 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13623 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13624 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13625 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13626 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13627 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13628 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13629 Sept 2026PriceCharting£13630 Sept 2026PriceCharting£1361 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1362 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1363 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1364 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1365 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1366 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1367 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1368 Oct 2026PriceCharting£1369 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13610 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13611 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13612 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13613 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13614 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13615 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13616 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13617 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13618 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13619 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13520 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13521 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13522 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13523 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13524 Oct 2026PriceCharting£13525 Oct 2026PriceCharting£135
£80.00£100£120
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Three independent readings on one scale. A reading is recorded only when a price changes, so a flat stretch means it held. Hover or tap any day. HoloHawk and PulseTCG have no readings for this card yet.
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,26915 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,26916 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,26917 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,26918 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,26919 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,26920 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,26921 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,26922 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,26923 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,26924 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,26925 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,26926 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,26927 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,26928 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,26929 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,26930 Apr 2026PSA 10£1,2691 May 2026PSA 10£1,2692 May 2026PSA 10£1,2693 May 2026PSA 10£1,2694 May 2026PSA 10£1,2695 May 2026PSA 10£1,2696 May 2026PSA 10£1,2697 May 2026PSA 10£1,2698 May 2026PSA 10£1,2699 May 2026PSA 10£1,26910 May 2026PSA 10£1,26911 May 2026PSA 10£1,26912 May 2026PSA 10£1,26913 May 2026PSA 10£1,26914 May 2026PSA 10£1,26915 May 2026PSA 10£1,26916 May 2026PSA 10£1,26917 May 2026PSA 10£1,26918 May 2026PSA 10£1,26919 May 2026PSA 10£1,26920 May 2026PSA 10£1,26921 May 2026PSA 10£1,26922 May 2026PSA 10£1,26923 May 2026PSA 10£1,26924 May 2026PSA 10£1,26925 May 2026PSA 10£1,26926 May 2026PSA 10£1,26927 May 2026PSA 10£1,26928 May 2026PSA 10£1,26929 May 2026PSA 10£1,26930 May 2026PSA 10£1,26931 May 2026PSA 10£1,2691 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,2692 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,2693 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,2694 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,2695 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,2696 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,2697 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,2698 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,2699 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26910 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26911 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26912 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26913 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26914 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26915 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26916 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26917 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26918 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26919 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26920 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26921 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26922 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26923 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26924 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26925 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26926 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26927 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26928 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26929 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,26930 Jun 2026PSA 10£1,2691 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,2692 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,2693 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,2694 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,2695 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,2696 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,2697 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,2698 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,2699 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26910 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26911 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26912 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26913 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26914 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26915 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26916 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26917 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26918 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26919 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26920 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26921 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26922 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26923 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26924 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26925 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26926 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26927 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26928 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26929 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26930 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,26931 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,2691 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,2692 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,2693 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,2694 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6495 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6496 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6497 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6498 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6499 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64910 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64911 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64912 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64913 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64914 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64915 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64916 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64917 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64918 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64919 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64920 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64921 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64922 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64923 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64924 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£342CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64925 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£340CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64926 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£340CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64927 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£340CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64928 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£340CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64929 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£340CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64930 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£340CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64931 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£340CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6491 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£340CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6492 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£340CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6493 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£340CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6494 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6495 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6496 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6497 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6498 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6499 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64910 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64911 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64912 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64913 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64914 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64915 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64916 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64917 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64918 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64919 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64920 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64921 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64922 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64923 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64924 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64925 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64926 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£338CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64927 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64928 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64929 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64930 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6491 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6492 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6493 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6494 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6495 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6496 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6497 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6498 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,6499 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64910 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64911 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64912 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64913 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64914 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64915 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64916 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64917 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64918 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64919 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64920 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64921 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64922 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£762BGS 10£1,64923 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£507BGS 10£1,64924 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£507BGS 10£1,64925 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,269PSA 9£337CGC 10£507BGS 10£1,649
£500£1,000£1,500
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Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
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How much new stock hits the UK market each day The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This charts how many appear for this card once the daily rollup has readings for it.
A direct count of listings we saw appear — not an estimate of every listing on eBay.
Confirmed sales per day
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How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. This charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day, from the first confirmed sale for this card.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
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Live UK listings for this card The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This fills as soon as one appears for this card, showing asking prices cheapest first.
Where these numbers come from
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawkOur own market price, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.