16 Oct 2026PriceCharting£24717 Oct 2026PriceCharting£24718 Oct 2026PriceCharting£24719 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£247PulseTCG£27920 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£247PulseTCG£27921 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£247PulseTCG£27922 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£247PulseTCG£27923 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£246PulseTCG£27924 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£246PulseTCG£27925 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£246PulseTCG£27926 Oct 2026HoloHawk£193PriceCharting£246PulseTCG£279
23 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21524 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21525 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21526 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21527 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21528 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21529 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21530 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2151 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2152 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2153 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2154 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2155 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2156 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2157 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2158 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2159 Oct 2026PriceCharting£21510 Oct 2026PriceCharting£21511 Oct 2026PriceCharting£21512 Oct 2026PriceCharting£21513 Oct 2026PriceCharting£21514 Oct 2026PriceCharting£21515 Oct 2026PriceCharting£24716 Oct 2026PriceCharting£24717 Oct 2026PriceCharting£24718 Oct 2026PriceCharting£24719 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£247PulseTCG£27920 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£247PulseTCG£27921 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£247PulseTCG£27922 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£247PulseTCG£27923 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£246PulseTCG£27924 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£246PulseTCG£27925 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£246PulseTCG£27926 Oct 2026HoloHawk£193PriceCharting£246PulseTCG£279
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£18.0915 Apr 2026PriceCharting£18.0916 Apr 2026PriceCharting£18.0917 Apr 2026PriceCharting£18.0918 Apr 2026PriceCharting£18.0919 Apr 2026PriceCharting£16.5420 Apr 2026PriceCharting£16.5421 Apr 2026PriceCharting£16.5422 Apr 2026PriceCharting£16.5423 Apr 2026PriceCharting£16.5424 Apr 2026PriceCharting£16.5425 Apr 2026PriceCharting£16.5426 Apr 2026PriceCharting£16.5427 Apr 2026PriceCharting£16.5428 Apr 2026PriceCharting£15.7729 Apr 2026PriceCharting£15.7730 Apr 2026PriceCharting£15.771 May 2026PriceCharting£15.772 May 2026PriceCharting£15.773 May 2026PriceCharting£15.774 May 2026PriceCharting£15.775 May 2026PriceCharting£15.776 May 2026PriceCharting£15.777 May 2026PriceCharting£15.778 May 2026PriceCharting£15.779 May 2026PriceCharting£15.7710 May 2026PriceCharting£15.7711 May 2026PriceCharting£15.7712 May 2026PriceCharting£15.7713 May 2026PriceCharting£15.7714 May 2026PriceCharting£15.7715 May 2026PriceCharting£15.7716 May 2026PriceCharting£15.7717 May 2026PriceCharting£15.7718 May 2026PriceCharting£38.1519 May 2026PriceCharting£38.1520 May 2026PriceCharting£38.1521 May 2026PriceCharting£38.1522 May 2026PriceCharting£38.1523 May 2026PriceCharting£38.1524 May 2026PriceCharting£38.1525 May 2026PriceCharting£38.1526 May 2026PriceCharting£38.1527 May 2026PriceCharting£38.1528 May 2026PriceCharting£38.1529 May 2026PriceCharting£38.1530 May 2026PriceCharting£47.7631 May 2026PriceCharting£47.761 Jun 2026PriceCharting£47.762 Jun 2026PriceCharting£47.763 Jun 2026PriceCharting£47.764 Jun 2026PriceCharting£47.765 Jun 2026PriceCharting£47.766 Jun 2026PriceCharting£47.767 Jun 2026PriceCharting£50.508 Jun 2026PriceCharting£50.509 Jun 2026PriceCharting£50.5010 Jun 2026PriceCharting£50.5011 Jun 2026PriceCharting£50.5012 Jun 2026PriceCharting£50.5013 Jun 2026PriceCharting£50.5014 Jun 2026PriceCharting£50.5015 Jun 2026PriceCharting£51.4716 Jun 2026PriceCharting£51.4717 Jun 2026PriceCharting£51.4718 Jun 2026PriceCharting£51.4719 Jun 2026PriceCharting£51.4720 Jun 2026PriceCharting£51.4721 Jun 2026PriceCharting£51.4722 Jun 2026PriceCharting£51.4723 Jun 2026PriceCharting£51.4724 Jun 2026PriceCharting£51.4725 Jun 2026PriceCharting£51.9626 Jun 2026PriceCharting£51.9627 Jun 2026PriceCharting£51.9628 Jun 2026PriceCharting£51.9629 Jun 2026PriceCharting£51.9630 Jun 2026PriceCharting£51.961 Jul 2026PriceCharting£51.962 Jul 2026PriceCharting£51.963 Jul 2026PriceCharting£51.964 Jul 2026PriceCharting£51.965 Jul 2026PriceCharting£62.766 Jul 2026PriceCharting£62.767 Jul 2026PriceCharting£62.768 Jul 2026PriceCharting£62.769 Jul 2026PriceCharting£62.7610 Jul 2026PriceCharting£62.7611 Jul 2026PriceCharting£62.7612 Jul 2026PriceCharting£62.7613 Jul 2026PriceCharting£62.7614 Jul 2026PriceCharting£62.7615 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10316 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10317 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10318 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10319 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10320 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10321 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10322 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10323 Jul 2026PriceCharting£10324 Jul 2026PriceCharting£15025 Jul 2026PriceCharting£15026 Jul 2026PriceCharting£15027 Jul 2026PriceCharting£15028 Jul 2026PriceCharting£15029 Jul 2026PriceCharting£15030 Jul 2026PriceCharting£15031 Jul 2026PriceCharting£1341 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1342 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1343 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1344 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1345 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1956 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1957 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1958 Aug 2026PriceCharting£1959 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19510 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19511 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19512 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19513 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19514 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19515 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19516 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19517 Aug 2026PriceCharting£20618 Aug 2026PriceCharting£20619 Aug 2026PriceCharting£20620 Aug 2026PriceCharting£20621 Aug 2026PriceCharting£20622 Aug 2026PriceCharting£20623 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19524 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19525 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19526 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19527 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19528 Aug 2026PriceCharting£19529 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21430 Aug 2026PriceCharting£21431 Aug 2026PriceCharting£2141 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2142 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2143 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2144 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2145 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2146 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2147 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2148 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2149 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21410 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21411 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21412 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21413 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21414 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21415 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21416 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21417 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21418 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21419 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21420 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21421 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21422 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21523 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21524 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21525 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21526 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21527 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21528 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21529 Sept 2026PriceCharting£21530 Sept 2026PriceCharting£2151 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2152 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2153 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2154 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2155 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2156 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2157 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2158 Oct 2026PriceCharting£2159 Oct 2026PriceCharting£21510 Oct 2026PriceCharting£21511 Oct 2026PriceCharting£21512 Oct 2026PriceCharting£21513 Oct 2026PriceCharting£21514 Oct 2026PriceCharting£21515 Oct 2026PriceCharting£24716 Oct 2026PriceCharting£24717 Oct 2026PriceCharting£24718 Oct 2026PriceCharting£24719 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£247PulseTCG£27920 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£247PulseTCG£27921 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£247PulseTCG£27922 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£247PulseTCG£27923 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£246PulseTCG£27924 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£246PulseTCG£27925 Oct 2026HoloHawk£262PriceCharting£246PulseTCG£27926 Oct 2026HoloHawk£193PriceCharting£246PulseTCG£279
£100£200
14 Apr8 May4 Jun28 Jun21 Jul23 Oct
Three independent readings on one scale. A reading is recorded only when a price changes, so a flat stretch means it held. Hover or tap any day.
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£28515 Apr 2026PSA 10£28516 Apr 2026PSA 10£28517 Apr 2026PSA 10£28518 Apr 2026PSA 10£28519 Apr 2026PSA 10£28320 Apr 2026PSA 10£28321 Apr 2026PSA 10£28322 Apr 2026PSA 10£28323 Apr 2026PSA 10£28324 Apr 2026PSA 10£28325 Apr 2026PSA 10£28326 Apr 2026PSA 10£28327 Apr 2026PSA 10£28328 Apr 2026PSA 10£28129 Apr 2026PSA 10£28130 Apr 2026PSA 10£2811 May 2026PSA 10£2812 May 2026PSA 10£2813 May 2026PSA 10£2814 May 2026PSA 10£2815 May 2026PSA 10£2816 May 2026PSA 10£2817 May 2026PSA 10£2818 May 2026PSA 10£2819 May 2026PSA 10£27910 May 2026PSA 10£27911 May 2026PSA 10£27912 May 2026PSA 10£27913 May 2026PSA 10£27914 May 2026PSA 10£27915 May 2026PSA 10£27916 May 2026PSA 10£27917 May 2026PSA 10£27918 May 2026PSA 10£27919 May 2026PSA 10£27920 May 2026PSA 10£27921 May 2026PSA 10£27922 May 2026PSA 10£27923 May 2026PSA 10£27924 May 2026PSA 10£27925 May 2026PSA 10£27926 May 2026PSA 10£27927 May 2026PSA 10£27928 May 2026PSA 10£27929 May 2026PSA 10£27930 May 2026PSA 10£27931 May 2026PSA 10£2791 Jun 2026PSA 10£2792 Jun 2026PSA 10£2793 Jun 2026PSA 10£2794 Jun 2026PSA 10£2795 Jun 2026PSA 10£2796 Jun 2026PSA 10£2797 Jun 2026PSA 10£2798 Jun 2026PSA 10£2799 Jun 2026PSA 10£27910 Jun 2026PSA 10£27911 Jun 2026PSA 10£27912 Jun 2026PSA 10£27913 Jun 2026PSA 10£27914 Jun 2026PSA 10£27915 Jun 2026PSA 10£27916 Jun 2026PSA 10£27917 Jun 2026PSA 10£27918 Jun 2026PSA 10£27919 Jun 2026PSA 10£27920 Jun 2026PSA 10£27921 Jun 2026PSA 10£27922 Jun 2026PSA 10£27923 Jun 2026PSA 10£27924 Jun 2026PSA 10£27925 Jun 2026PSA 10£27926 Jun 2026PSA 10£27927 Jun 2026PSA 10£27928 Jun 2026PSA 10£27929 Jun 2026PSA 10£27930 Jun 2026PSA 10£2791 Jul 2026PSA 10£2792 Jul 2026PSA 10£2793 Jul 2026PSA 10£2794 Jul 2026PSA 10£2795 Jul 2026PSA 10£5056 Jul 2026PSA 10£5057 Jul 2026PSA 10£5058 Jul 2026PSA 10£5059 Jul 2026PSA 10£50510 Jul 2026PSA 10£50511 Jul 2026PSA 10£50512 Jul 2026PSA 10£50513 Jul 2026PSA 10£50514 Jul 2026PSA 10£50515 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,36216 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,36217 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,36218 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,36219 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,36220 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,36221 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,36222 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,36223 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,36224 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,36625 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,36626 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,36627 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,36628 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,36629 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,36630 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,36631 Jul 2026PSA 10£1,3681 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,3682 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,3683 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,3684 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,368PSA 9£825CGC 10£821BGS 10£1,7775 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,368PSA 9£825CGC 10£821BGS 10£1,7796 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,368PSA 9£825CGC 10£821BGS 10£1,7797 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,368PSA 9£825CGC 10£821BGS 10£1,7798 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,368PSA 9£825CGC 10£821BGS 10£1,7799 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,368PSA 9£825CGC 10£821BGS 10£1,77910 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,368PSA 9£825CGC 10£821BGS 10£1,77911 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,368PSA 9£825CGC 10£821BGS 10£1,77912 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78013 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78014 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78015 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78016 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78017 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78018 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78019 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78020 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78021 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78022 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78023 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78024 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78025 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78026 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78027 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78028 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78029 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78030 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78031 Aug 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,7801 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,7802 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,7803 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,7804 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,7805 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,7806 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,7807 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,7808 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,7809 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78010 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78011 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78012 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78013 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78014 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78015 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78016 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78017 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78018 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78019 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78020 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78021 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78022 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78023 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78024 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78025 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78026 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78027 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78028 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78029 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78030 Sept 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,7801 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,7802 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,7803 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,7804 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,7805 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,7806 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,7807 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,7808 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,7809 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78010 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78011 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78012 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78013 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78014 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78015 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78016 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78017 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78018 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78019 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78020 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78021 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78022 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£822BGS 10£1,78023 Oct 2026PSA 10£1,369PSA 9£825CGC 10£548BGS 10£1,780
£500£1,000£1,500
14 Apr8 May4 Jun28 Jun21 Jul23 Oct
Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
1 today
How many new UK listings appear for this card each day. Rising supply against a
falling price is the clearest sell signal there is. This counts what we saw, so it is a sample of
the market rather than a total.
19 Oct 2026New listings/day120 Oct 2026New listings/day021 Oct 2026New listings/day022 Oct 2026New listings/day023 Oct 2026New listings/day024 Oct 2026New listings/day025 Oct 2026New listings/day026 Oct 2026New listings/day1
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19 Oct21 Oct24 Oct26 Oct
New UK listings we saw appear each day. A direct count of what the scanner observed, not an estimate of everything on eBay. Source: HoloHawk, observed directly on eBay UK.
Confirmed sales per day
Building
How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. This charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day, from the first confirmed sale for this card.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
2 live
Fixed-price listings we are currently tracking, cheapest first. Asking prices, not sales,
and a sample of what is listed rather than everything on eBay. Each row opens the listing on eBay — HoloHawk earns a commission on purchases made through it, and it never changes the price you pay.
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawkOur own market price, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.