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Prices by grade
PSA 10 = 20.9× raw
Today's figures for every tier.
Raw · ungraded£44.77
PSA 10£936
PSA 9£780
CGC 10£461
BGS 10£1,217
A PSA 10 sells for 20.9× the raw card — a gap of £891. Grading fees and the risk of a 9 come out of that.
At a glance
30-day high£48.35
30-day low£36.68
Tracked high£73.80
Days tracked199
IllustratorMitsuhiro Arita
Pokédex9
Price history
133 readings · 199d
HoloHawk awaiting data£44.77+10.8%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
23 Oct 2026PriceCharting£40.4524 Oct 2026PriceCharting£48.2525 Oct 2026PriceCharting£48.2526 Oct 2026PriceCharting£48.2527 Oct 2026PriceCharting£48.2528 Oct 2026PriceCharting£48.3529 Oct 2026PriceCharting£48.3530 Oct 2026PriceCharting£44.77
£42.00£44.00£46.00£48.00
23 Oct23 Oct24 Oct24 Oct28 Oct30 Oct
HoloHawk awaiting data£44.77+8.1%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
30 Sept 2026PriceCharting£41.411 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.682 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.683 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.684 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.685 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.686 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.687 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.688 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.689 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.6810 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.6811 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.6812 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.6813 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.6814 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.6815 Oct 2026PriceCharting£38.9016 Oct 2026PriceCharting£38.9017 Oct 2026PriceCharting£38.9018 Oct 2026PriceCharting£38.9019 Oct 2026PriceCharting£40.4220 Oct 2026PriceCharting£40.4221 Oct 2026PriceCharting£40.4222 Oct 2026PriceCharting£40.4223 Oct 2026PriceCharting£40.4524 Oct 2026PriceCharting£48.2525 Oct 2026PriceCharting£48.2526 Oct 2026PriceCharting£48.2527 Oct 2026PriceCharting£48.2528 Oct 2026PriceCharting£48.3529 Oct 2026PriceCharting£48.3530 Oct 2026PriceCharting£44.77
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HoloHawk awaiting data£44.77-27.0%PriceChartingPulseTCG awaiting data
14 Apr 2026PriceCharting£61.3615 Apr 2026PriceCharting£61.3616 Apr 2026PriceCharting£61.3617 Apr 2026PriceCharting£61.3618 Apr 2026PriceCharting£60.1519 Apr 2026PriceCharting£60.1520 Apr 2026PriceCharting£60.1521 Apr 2026PriceCharting£60.1522 Apr 2026PriceCharting£70.9023 Apr 2026PriceCharting£70.9024 Apr 2026PriceCharting£70.9025 Apr 2026PriceCharting£70.9026 Apr 2026PriceCharting£68.5227 Apr 2026PriceCharting£68.5228 Apr 2026PriceCharting£68.5229 Apr 2026PriceCharting£68.5230 Apr 2026PriceCharting£73.801 May 2026PriceCharting£73.802 May 2026PriceCharting£73.803 May 2026PriceCharting£70.954 May 2026PriceCharting£70.955 May 2026PriceCharting£70.936 May 2026PriceCharting£70.937 May 2026PriceCharting£70.938 May 2026PriceCharting£70.939 May 2026PriceCharting£70.9010 May 2026PriceCharting£70.9011 May 2026PriceCharting£70.9012 May 2026PriceCharting£73.0113 May 2026PriceCharting£73.0114 May 2026PriceCharting£73.0115 May 2026PriceCharting£73.0116 May 2026PriceCharting£70.9017 May 2026PriceCharting£70.9018 May 2026PriceCharting£73.4819 May 2026PriceCharting£73.4820 May 2026PriceCharting£73.4821 May 2026PriceCharting£70.9022 May 2026PriceCharting£70.9023 May 2026PriceCharting£70.9024 May 2026PriceCharting£70.9025 May 2026PriceCharting£70.9026 May 2026PriceCharting£70.9027 May 2026PriceCharting£70.9028 May 2026PriceCharting£70.9029 May 2026PriceCharting£70.9030 May 2026PriceCharting£58.3131 May 2026PriceCharting£58.311 Jun 2026PriceCharting£58.312 Jun 2026PriceCharting£57.473 Jun 2026PriceCharting£57.474 Jun 2026PriceCharting£57.475 Jun 2026PriceCharting£57.476 Jun 2026PriceCharting£53.307 Jun 2026PriceCharting£53.308 Jun 2026PriceCharting£52.249 Jun 2026PriceCharting£52.2410 Jun 2026PriceCharting£52.2411 Jun 2026PriceCharting£52.6212 Jun 2026PriceCharting£52.6213 Jun 2026PriceCharting£52.6214 Jun 2026PriceCharting£52.6215 Jun 2026PriceCharting£56.8916 Jun 2026PriceCharting£56.8917 Jun 2026PriceCharting£56.8918 Jun 2026PriceCharting£58.9619 Jun 2026PriceCharting£58.9620 Jun 2026PriceCharting£58.9621 Jun 2026PriceCharting£64.1622 Jun 2026PriceCharting£64.1623 Jun 2026PriceCharting£61.5724 Jun 2026PriceCharting£61.5725 Jun 2026PriceCharting£61.5726 Jun 2026PriceCharting£56.8927 Jun 2026PriceCharting£56.8928 Jun 2026PriceCharting£56.8929 Jun 2026PriceCharting£56.8930 Jun 2026PriceCharting£52.501 Jul 2026PriceCharting£52.502 Jul 2026PriceCharting£54.483 Jul 2026PriceCharting£54.484 Jul 2026PriceCharting£54.485 Jul 2026PriceCharting£53.716 Jul 2026PriceCharting£53.717 Jul 2026PriceCharting£53.718 Jul 2026PriceCharting£53.719 Jul 2026PriceCharting£57.6610 Jul 2026PriceCharting£57.6611 Jul 2026PriceCharting£52.2412 Jul 2026PriceCharting£52.2413 Jul 2026PriceCharting£52.2414 Jul 2026PriceCharting£52.2415 Jul 2026PriceCharting£52.2416 Jul 2026PriceCharting£52.2417 Jul 2026PriceCharting£52.2418 Jul 2026PriceCharting£51.1219 Jul 2026PriceCharting£51.1220 Jul 2026PriceCharting£51.1221 Jul 2026PriceCharting£51.1222 Jul 2026PriceCharting£49.6923 Jul 2026PriceCharting£49.6924 Jul 2026PriceCharting£49.6925 Jul 2026PriceCharting£46.8326 Jul 2026PriceCharting£46.8327 Jul 2026PriceCharting£46.8328 Jul 2026PriceCharting£46.8329 Jul 2026PriceCharting£49.4030 Jul 2026PriceCharting£49.4031 Jul 2026PriceCharting£49.401 Aug 2026PriceCharting£49.392 Aug 2026PriceCharting£49.393 Aug 2026PriceCharting£45.564 Aug 2026PriceCharting£45.565 Aug 2026PriceCharting£45.566 Aug 2026PriceCharting£45.567 Aug 2026PriceCharting£36.738 Aug 2026PriceCharting£36.739 Aug 2026PriceCharting£36.7310 Aug 2026PriceCharting£36.7311 Aug 2026PriceCharting£36.8412 Aug 2026PriceCharting£36.5613 Aug 2026PriceCharting£36.5614 Aug 2026PriceCharting£36.5615 Aug 2026PriceCharting£40.2716 Aug 2026PriceCharting£40.2717 Aug 2026PriceCharting£40.2718 Aug 2026PriceCharting£40.2719 Aug 2026PriceCharting£40.2720 Aug 2026PriceCharting£40.2721 Aug 2026PriceCharting£40.2722 Aug 2026PriceCharting£44.2923 Aug 2026PriceCharting£44.2924 Aug 2026PriceCharting£44.6025 Aug 2026PriceCharting£44.6026 Aug 2026PriceCharting£44.6027 Aug 2026PriceCharting£44.6028 Aug 2026PriceCharting£45.3729 Aug 2026PriceCharting£45.3730 Aug 2026PriceCharting£45.3731 Aug 2026PriceCharting£45.531 Sept 2026PriceCharting£45.532 Sept 2026PriceCharting£45.533 Sept 2026PriceCharting£40.834 Sept 2026PriceCharting£40.835 Sept 2026PriceCharting£42.566 Sept 2026PriceCharting£42.567 Sept 2026PriceCharting£42.568 Sept 2026PriceCharting£42.569 Sept 2026PriceCharting£40.2610 Sept 2026PriceCharting£40.2611 Sept 2026PriceCharting£40.2612 Sept 2026PriceCharting£36.8813 Sept 2026PriceCharting£36.8814 Sept 2026PriceCharting£41.3515 Sept 2026PriceCharting£41.3516 Sept 2026PriceCharting£41.3517 Sept 2026PriceCharting£41.3518 Sept 2026PriceCharting£41.3819 Sept 2026PriceCharting£41.3820 Sept 2026PriceCharting£41.3821 Sept 2026PriceCharting£41.3822 Sept 2026PriceCharting£41.3223 Sept 2026PriceCharting£41.3224 Sept 2026PriceCharting£41.3225 Sept 2026PriceCharting£41.2426 Sept 2026PriceCharting£41.2427 Sept 2026PriceCharting£41.2428 Sept 2026PriceCharting£41.4129 Sept 2026PriceCharting£41.4130 Sept 2026PriceCharting£41.411 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.682 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.683 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.684 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.685 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.686 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.687 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.688 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.689 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.6810 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.6811 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.6812 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.6813 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.6814 Oct 2026PriceCharting£36.6815 Oct 2026PriceCharting£38.9016 Oct 2026PriceCharting£38.9017 Oct 2026PriceCharting£38.9018 Oct 2026PriceCharting£38.9019 Oct 2026PriceCharting£40.4220 Oct 2026PriceCharting£40.4221 Oct 2026PriceCharting£40.4222 Oct 2026PriceCharting£40.4223 Oct 2026PriceCharting£40.4524 Oct 2026PriceCharting£48.2525 Oct 2026PriceCharting£48.2526 Oct 2026PriceCharting£48.2527 Oct 2026PriceCharting£48.2528 Oct 2026PriceCharting£48.3529 Oct 2026PriceCharting£48.3530 Oct 2026PriceCharting£44.77
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Three independent readings on one scale. A reading is recorded only when a price changes, so a flat stretch means it held. Hover or tap any day. HoloHawk and PulseTCG have no readings for this card yet.
14 Apr 2026PSA 10£36415 Apr 2026PSA 10£36416 Apr 2026PSA 10£36417 Apr 2026PSA 10£36418 Apr 2026PSA 10£75519 Apr 2026PSA 10£75520 Apr 2026PSA 10£75521 Apr 2026PSA 10£75522 Apr 2026PSA 10£75523 Apr 2026PSA 10£75524 Apr 2026PSA 10£74925 Apr 2026PSA 10£74926 Apr 2026PSA 10£74827 Apr 2026PSA 10£74828 Apr 2026PSA 10£74829 Apr 2026PSA 10£74830 Apr 2026PSA 10£7461 May 2026PSA 10£7462 May 2026PSA 10£7463 May 2026PSA 10£7464 May 2026PSA 10£7465 May 2026PSA 10£7466 May 2026PSA 10£7467 May 2026PSA 10£7468 May 2026PSA 10£7469 May 2026PSA 10£74610 May 2026PSA 10£74611 May 2026PSA 10£74612 May 2026PSA 10£74613 May 2026PSA 10£74614 May 2026PSA 10£74615 May 2026PSA 10£74616 May 2026PSA 10£74617 May 2026PSA 10£74618 May 2026PSA 10£74619 May 2026PSA 10£74620 May 2026PSA 10£74621 May 2026PSA 10£74622 May 2026PSA 10£74623 May 2026PSA 10£74624 May 2026PSA 10£74625 May 2026PSA 10£74626 May 2026PSA 10£74627 May 2026PSA 10£74628 May 2026PSA 10£74629 May 2026PSA 10£74630 May 2026PSA 10£74631 May 2026PSA 10£7461 Jun 2026PSA 10£7462 Jun 2026PSA 10£7463 Jun 2026PSA 10£7464 Jun 2026PSA 10£7465 Jun 2026PSA 10£7466 Jun 2026PSA 10£7457 Jun 2026PSA 10£7458 Jun 2026PSA 10£7459 Jun 2026PSA 10£74510 Jun 2026PSA 10£74511 Jun 2026PSA 10£74512 Jun 2026PSA 10£74513 Jun 2026PSA 10£74514 Jun 2026PSA 10£74515 Jun 2026PSA 10£74416 Jun 2026PSA 10£74417 Jun 2026PSA 10£74418 Jun 2026PSA 10£74419 Jun 2026PSA 10£74420 Jun 2026PSA 10£74421 Jun 2026PSA 10£74422 Jun 2026PSA 10£74423 Jun 2026PSA 10£74424 Jun 2026PSA 10£74425 Jun 2026PSA 10£74426 Jun 2026PSA 10£74427 Jun 2026PSA 10£74428 Jun 2026PSA 10£74429 Jun 2026PSA 10£74430 Jun 2026PSA 10£7431 Jul 2026PSA 10£7432 Jul 2026PSA 10£7433 Jul 2026PSA 10£7434 Jul 2026PSA 10£7435 Jul 2026PSA 10£7436 Jul 2026PSA 10£7437 Jul 2026PSA 10£7438 Jul 2026PSA 10£7439 Jul 2026PSA 10£72810 Jul 2026PSA 10£72811 Jul 2026PSA 10£71912 Jul 2026PSA 10£71913 Jul 2026PSA 10£71914 Jul 2026PSA 10£36415 Jul 2026PSA 10£36416 Jul 2026PSA 10£36417 Jul 2026PSA 10£36418 Jul 2026PSA 10£36419 Jul 2026PSA 10£36420 Jul 2026PSA 10£36421 Jul 2026PSA 10£36422 Jul 2026PSA 10£36423 Jul 2026PSA 10£36424 Jul 2026PSA 10£36425 Jul 2026PSA 10£36426 Jul 2026PSA 10£36427 Jul 2026PSA 10£36428 Jul 2026PSA 10£36429 Jul 2026PSA 10£36430 Jul 2026PSA 10£36431 Jul 2026PSA 10£3641 Aug 2026PSA 10£3642 Aug 2026PSA 10£3643 Aug 2026PSA 10£3644 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£301CGC 10£461BGS 10£4735 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£301CGC 10£461BGS 10£4736 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£301CGC 10£461BGS 10£4737 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£305CGC 10£461BGS 10£4738 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£305CGC 10£461BGS 10£4739 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£305CGC 10£461BGS 10£47310 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£305CGC 10£461BGS 10£47311 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£307CGC 10£461BGS 10£47312 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47313 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47314 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47315 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47316 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47317 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47318 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47319 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47320 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47321 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47322 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47323 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47324 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47325 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47326 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47327 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47328 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47329 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47330 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£47331 Aug 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£4731 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£4732 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£250CGC 10£461BGS 10£4733 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£290CGC 10£461BGS 10£4734 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£290CGC 10£461BGS 10£4735 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£322CGC 10£461BGS 10£4736 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£322CGC 10£461BGS 10£4737 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£322CGC 10£461BGS 10£4738 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£322CGC 10£461BGS 10£4739 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£322CGC 10£461BGS 10£47310 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£322CGC 10£461BGS 10£47311 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£322CGC 10£461BGS 10£47312 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£336CGC 10£461BGS 10£47313 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£336CGC 10£461BGS 10£47314 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£323CGC 10£461BGS 10£47315 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£323CGC 10£461BGS 10£47316 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£323CGC 10£461BGS 10£47317 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£323CGC 10£461BGS 10£47318 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£364CGC 10£461BGS 10£47319 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£364CGC 10£461BGS 10£47320 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£364CGC 10£461BGS 10£47321 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£364CGC 10£461BGS 10£47322 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£364CGC 10£461BGS 10£47323 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£364CGC 10£461BGS 10£47324 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£364CGC 10£461BGS 10£47325 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£364CGC 10£461BGS 10£47326 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£364CGC 10£461BGS 10£47327 Sept 2026PSA 10£364PSA 9£364CGC 10£461BGS 10£47328 Sept 2026PSA 10£493PSA 9£410CGC 10£461BGS 10£64029 Sept 2026PSA 10£493PSA 9£410CGC 10£461BGS 10£64030 Sept 2026PSA 10£493PSA 9£410CGC 10£461BGS 10£6401 Oct 2026PSA 10£493PSA 9£410CGC 10£461BGS 10£6402 Oct 2026PSA 10£493PSA 9£410CGC 10£461BGS 10£6403 Oct 2026PSA 10£493PSA 9£410CGC 10£461BGS 10£6404 Oct 2026PSA 10£493PSA 9£410CGC 10£461BGS 10£6405 Oct 2026PSA 10£493PSA 9£410CGC 10£461BGS 10£6406 Oct 2026PSA 10£493PSA 9£410CGC 10£461BGS 10£6407 Oct 2026PSA 10£493PSA 9£410CGC 10£461BGS 10£6408 Oct 2026PSA 10£493PSA 9£410CGC 10£461BGS 10£6409 Oct 2026PSA 10£493PSA 9£410CGC 10£461BGS 10£64010 Oct 2026PSA 10£493PSA 9£410CGC 10£461BGS 10£64011 Oct 2026PSA 10£493PSA 9£410CGC 10£461BGS 10£64012 Oct 2026PSA 10£493PSA 9£410CGC 10£461BGS 10£64013 Oct 2026PSA 10£493PSA 9£410CGC 10£461BGS 10£64014 Oct 2026PSA 10£493PSA 9£410CGC 10£461BGS 10£64015 Oct 2026PSA 10£716PSA 9£597CGC 10£461BGS 10£93116 Oct 2026PSA 10£716PSA 9£597CGC 10£461BGS 10£93117 Oct 2026PSA 10£716PSA 9£597CGC 10£461BGS 10£93118 Oct 2026PSA 10£716PSA 9£597CGC 10£461BGS 10£93119 Oct 2026PSA 10£716PSA 9£597CGC 10£461BGS 10£93120 Oct 2026PSA 10£716PSA 9£597CGC 10£461BGS 10£93121 Oct 2026PSA 10£716PSA 9£597CGC 10£461BGS 10£93122 Oct 2026PSA 10£716PSA 9£597CGC 10£461BGS 10£93123 Oct 2026PSA 10£716PSA 9£597CGC 10£461BGS 10£93124 Oct 2026PSA 10£878PSA 9£732CGC 10£461BGS 10£1,14125 Oct 2026PSA 10£878PSA 9£732CGC 10£461BGS 10£1,14126 Oct 2026PSA 10£878PSA 9£732CGC 10£461BGS 10£1,14127 Oct 2026PSA 10£878PSA 9£732CGC 10£461BGS 10£1,14128 Oct 2026PSA 10£878PSA 9£732CGC 10£461BGS 10£1,14129 Oct 2026PSA 10£878PSA 9£732CGC 10£461BGS 10£1,14130 Oct 2026PSA 10£936PSA 9£780CGC 10£461BGS 10£1,217
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Graded prices from PriceCharting, in GBP. PSA 10 has been tracked since April 2026; the other tiers began recording 3 August 2026 and join the chart as their history builds.
New listings per day
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How much new stock hits the UK market each day The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This charts how many appear for this card once the daily rollup has readings for it.
A direct count of listings we saw appear — not an estimate of every listing on eBay.
Confirmed sales per day
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How often this card actually sells We record roughly 4,600 UK auction outcomes a day across the catalogue. This charts how many close with a winning bid, day by day, from the first confirmed sale for this card.
Only auctions that finished with a bid count. A listing vanishing is not proof of a sale, so it is not counted as one.
Recent confirmed sales
Recording live
No confirmed sales for this card yet
We log every UK auction that closes with a winning bid — around 4,600 a day across the catalogue.
The first result for this card appears here as soon as one sells.
On sale now in the UK
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Live UK listings for this card The scanner records every new UK listing it sees — around 13,600 a day. This fills as soon as one appears for this card, showing asking prices cheapest first.
Where these numbers come from
Three independent readings, shown side by side rather than blended into one figure:
HoloHawkOur own market price, from live UK listings
PriceChartingPublished reference price, USD converted to GBP
PulseTCGPublished reference price, natively GBP
A reading is stored only when a price actually changes, so flat
stretches mean the price held — not that data is missing. Where a source has no history for an item its
line is absent rather than flat. Confirmed sales are UK auctions that closed with a winning bid, observed
within three minutes of close, so each is a lower bound. Live listings are asking prices, not sales.
Supply and sales counts are direct observations — listings we saw appear and auctions we saw close with a
bid. We do not infer that a listing sold because it disappeared, so nothing here depends on that guess.
